• gribodyr@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    For the cases when the Hamas are hiding in the same buildings as civilians (effectively using them as a human shield), what does the esteemed audience suggest?

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      1 year ago

      Let’s say for the sake of argument that a terrorist cell popped up in your town. Would be okay for the government to carpet bomb your town, including your house, to remove them? If not, how is that different from the scenario in Gaza?

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        In this case the terrorist organisation is the de facto government and they just escalated an ongoing conflict into a war

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        1 year ago

        I understand you’re furious as many others here, but what exactly is it you suggest doing in this case?

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      Don’t kill civilians.

      It’s not hard unless you’ve lost your moral compass.

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          If is if you’d open your mind a tiny bit.

          If bombing hostages isn’t an option, what else can you do?

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              Why don’t just come out and say what you want? Just say you want all Palestinians dead, coward.

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              It’s a city that’s >95% civilians, 50% children.

              You don’t blindly kill them is what you do.

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                I am sorry for the people there. But none of you defenders of Hamas suggest anything that is a fair price for what the Hamas did in Israel.

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                Whatever. You don’t understand the question and your attempt to force me in a box of your thinking is not working.

                I am sorry for the loss. But civilians will die as in any war.

                I understand all your lot comments about land. But nothing justifies what has been done by Hamas.

                It is them who you must blame for the consequences. The consequences is what you get when you lend your ears to those whose agenda you don’t want to understand.

                I am sorry for you guys. You put Israel and Russia on the same level. I am sorry for your blindsight.

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                  You are choosing not to understand that the existence of terrorism is not a free pass to kill civilians.

                  “Civilians will die” is you approving of attacks on civilians. They wouldn’t die if Israel didn’t bomb them.

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                    This game is well played from the other side, too you know.

                    “Civilians in Gaza wouldn’t have died if Hamas had not initiated the attack in Israel”

                    But the Hamas are the Gaza government which was elected back in early 00s IIRC. Now what do we have here? To me Hamas is similar to Russia invading Ukraine.

                    If NATO had not forbidden Ukraine to use their weapons on the Russian soil, would there have been civilian deaths there?

                    Wrong parallels my dude, your parallels are wrong.

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              I thought you said the terrorists were using civilians as human shields, now they’re all terrorists?

              Make up your mind, jeez.

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      Don’t kill the human shield? You don’t kill the hostages in a hostage situation. Well, if you’re not Israel, at least. They seem fine with killing Israeli hostages as well and just blaming the other party for killing them by them not moving them out of the way of IDF bombs.

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          You said …

          Hamas are hiding in the same buildings as civilians (effectively using them as a human shield)

          So handing out water and food wouldn’t just be to the few (if any) Hamas members hiding there.

          It would be a great help to the innocent Palestinians who are caught in the IDF’s crosshairs.