Senate Republicans are warning New York Judge Juan Merchan not to sentence former President Trump to prison or house arrest or take any other action that could disrupt the likely GOP nominee’s abil…
  • ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world
    224·
    6 months ago

    They feel he tilted the trial? He handled Trump with kid gloves the whole trial while he was throwing constant diaper filled tantrums. If anything he went way too easy on the orange baboon.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1633·
      6 months ago

      Fascists always say they were treated unfairly…

      The problem with that is, moderates then treat them with kids gloves, thinking that will stop them from saying it.

      It never does.

      To deal with fascists you throw the book at them, max legal punishment for every crime.

      Because even if you just give them a slap on the wrist, their ideology requires them to say they were treated unfairly and are being persecuted.

      It’s like how they’ll call the most conservative Dem in office a communist. So there’s no point in running a conservative Dem, they’ll fight them as hard as the most progressive.

      There’s no rational reason to compromise before the fight starts.

      • Nollij@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        23·
        6 months ago

        Many judges grant the defense way more leeway than the prosecution. One reason is actually pretty brutal- it keeps them from having something to appeal.

        Trump obviously wants to drag this out as long as possible, and keep re-rolling the dice until he wins. Preventing that is a worthy goal.

        • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
          94·
          6 months ago

          While there is some credence for that, it’s not like it only applies to fascists.

          Yet they always get preferential treatment at trial.

          Regardless of if that’s like Trump’s case where he appointed the judge, or this one where the other party appointed the judge.

          In both situations, the judges are more lenient with fascists than literally any other demographic.

          trump isnt the only example, look at all the 1/6 trials.

          Our justice system has a bias towards fascists, and regardless of the reasoning of the person showing the bias, they all believe it’s justified for one reason or another.

          And it’s always the wrong strategy when dealing with fascists.

        • PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world
          3·
          6 months ago

          This is particularly true for politicalized trials, because appeals courts are almost always more conservative than the lower courts. As you appeal higher, the courts tend to be more and more conservative, so a conservative’s chances of winning increase. So if you want to prevent a conservative from winning on appeal, the best way is to never give them anything to appeal in the first place.

      • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
        5·
        6 months ago

        Yeah, it’s the card says moops. They aren’t arguing what they think is true, they’re arguing what they think will get them what they want if they can convince people is true

      • Fox
        1·
        6 months ago

        Give it a shot, maybe he’ll have enough time before November to publish a book

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
      241·
      6 months ago

      He’s not going to give Trump a prison term. He said as much during Trump’s tenth contempt citation. This is Senators grandstanding so that they can go home and tell their constituents “I fought for your President and I won!” when the outcome was a foregone conclusion. Its all kabuki.

    • nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      7·
      6 months ago

      If only someone could have seen it coming that no matter how soft the judges would be, half the country would allege wrongdoing. Judge may as well have just given him the letter of the law treatment. Would probably have been better for the country too to see Donny in contempt of court, that way the eager ones burn themselves out soon instead of letting every racist in the country simmer in a pressure cooker awaiting a verdict.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
    1671·
    6 months ago

    MAGA 2016: “Lock her up!”

    MAGA 2020: “Lock him up!”

    MAGA 2024: “The justice department is being politicized against Biden’s enemies!”

  • ganksy@lemmy.world
    57·
    6 months ago

    Backs completely against the wall. They install their dictator or go down together.

    • azimir@lemmy.ml
      17·
      6 months ago

      They’re not as smart as the rats who have already been quietly jumping ship.

    • undercrust@lemmy.ca
      121·
      6 months ago

      Well, that’d be the second best thing after throwing them all into a volcano, I guess

  • werefreeatlast@lemmy.world
    49·
    6 months ago

    Because that’s how democracy works right my friends?

    The politicians are supposed to pay for prostitution and stop judges from jailing other politicians.

    • Natanael@slrpnk.net
      17·
      6 months ago

      Those politicians should be prosecuted for interfering with justice, threatening judges is criminal

      • Asafum@feddit.nl
        3·
        6 months ago

        And like everything with our incredibly stupid system it will end up being some bullshit that Congress needs to investigate itself over so they can find they “did no wrong”…

    • lanolinoil@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      6 months ago

      yeah the balance of power through the 3 branches scratching each other backs and the hidden 4th BOP group – money

        • unreasonabro@lemmy.world
          61·
          6 months ago

          *only

          it’s not like this isn’t the obvious end point (collapse) for any society run by greed and selfishness. continually dousing the statues of ancient Greece in acid will erode them just as surely as ceaseless corporate lobbying and the systematic removal of those who would stand for principles over profit has eroded the system we built on the greek model.

  • BigMacHole@lemm.ee
    512·
    6 months ago

    Biden is OBVIOUSLY overseeing this STATE Judge who told Trump multiple times he would be thrown in Jail but never was DESPITE threatening the Judge’s family and then allowed a Jury to deliberate in private to come to a conclusion based solely off the Evidence provided.

    That is UNFAIR and an ABUSE OF POWER on Joe Biden’s part!

    • Empricorn@feddit.nlEnglish
      23·
      6 months ago

      Biden’s Justice Department declined to prosecute Trump for the obvious crimes he was just convicted of! You can’t just say shit that’s the complete opposite of reality!!! Oh wait, republicans can, and they’ll earn votes with lies like this…

  • Etterra@lemmy.world
    45·
    6 months ago

    Do it. Give him jail time. Because when it comes to politicians we need to hammer in a lesson: not only could it happen to anyone, but it it should happen to almost everyone. They’ll need to be held universally accountable for crimes (for a change), regardless of political party.

    • ashok36@lemmy.world
      4·
      6 months ago

      I worry about Republicans taking power and using the trump trials as an excuse to put together kangaroo courts in places like Texas and Florida to actually do the sorts of politically based prosecutions that they’re whining about now. That should never be a reason to not uphold the law though. We cannot let ourselves be held hostage by what bad actors might do in the future.

      • Asafum@feddit.nl
        3·
        6 months ago

        They already have said that’s the plan. They want to go after Biden and his family, Obama (they can’t fucking get over that guy…) and whoever else was a part of any investigation of Republicans.

        Turn on fox news and watch the fucking propagandists go from practically in tears talking about trump, to literally frothing rage ranting about how all Democrats need to be jailed…

  • Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world
    441·
    6 months ago

    The BEST situation would be for the judge to say prison for a first offender is inappropriate. And then sentence the Mango Mussolini to 1000 hours of community service in which he’d pick up trash along the highway etc. And begin the 1000 hours in September.

    • hightrix@lemmy.world
      28·
      6 months ago

      He would absolutely not be in a jumpsuit on the side of the road doing community service. He would be assigned 1000 hours and then “work” with a charity putting his “skills” to use.

      I’m speaking from experience. I had 120 hrs of community service and I did computer work for a well known charity.

    • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
      11·
      6 months ago

      I just want him to have to piss in a cup before the debates so he can’t take his hitler energy cocktail.

    • Treczoks@lemmy.world
      10·
      6 months ago

      Don’t put him on a highway chain gang, that gives him too much public exposure. His fanboys will basically flood that place, making the security of the guards a nightmare. Put him in a nice place where he can assemble, clean, or pack something without access to the crowds.

  • DominusOfMegadeus@sh.itjust.works
    432·
    6 months ago

    Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), a senior member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said it would be a “further abuse of power” to incarcerate Trump or sentence him to home confinement.

    “I’m very troubled by what I see in the way the courts have been weaponized,” he said. “It used to be there were some institutions in America, namely the FBI, the Department of Justice and the courts, which were regarded as out of bounds for overt partisan politics, but unfortunately that’s changed, and not for the better.”

    I am at a loss for how true his words are, while his intent is SO SO wrong

  • Treczoks@lemmy.world
    33·
    6 months ago

    Ts, ts, didn’t they all scream that politicians influencing the juridical process is a bad thing just seconds ago?

  • magnetosphere@fedia.io
    25·
    6 months ago

    Warn? WARN? The arrogance is astounding. Just who do they think they are?

    One of those dipshits said “we’re not a banana republic”. That’s correct. Even legislators in those countries know that shitting on their own legal system is counterproductive, but that hasn’t been the case here!

    I’m so sick of these crybabies tearing the country apart simply out of spite. Learn what consequences and facts are, you pathetic whiners.

      • snooggums@midwest.socialEnglish
        14·
        6 months ago

        They mean the tv shows, where the cops frequently ignore basic rights of innocent people to get the bad guys.

      • bazus1@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9·
        6 months ago

        They mean the two-tiered legal system, where the working class is subject to the expected uncaring legal system, and the monied-class can be protected from prosecution (much less incarceration) by the wink-and-a-nod privileged legal system.