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Its good to see these messages come out but it does suprise me sometimes that some of these things weren’t already legal.
Good and sad news at the same time. Had the same thought lately whith Nepal legalizing same-sex marriage as the first country in the region.
keep in mind that many european countries only legalized same sex marriage in the last ten years. in Germany it was only in 2017. It is not that long ago. In the same wake it is only 30 years that homosexuality was finally scraped from criminal law and to this day men that were convicted under these laws are considered to have a criminal record because those convictions were never removed, despite them having consensual sex with another men being legal now.
Yeah. That’s sad too.
Btw. i think criminal records are removed now in Germany. But that also happened far too late and the compensations are ridiculous low.
I have a list of affordable and LGBT accepted places. Now I’m looking into Greece.
I have no disrespect for the more conservative places but I don’t have to spend my limited time on earth in those countries.
Ok, but Greece should also legalize not drowning in a boat the coast guard tipped over
The only reason gay marriage wasnt already legal, was because they(the current government) opposed it in the past. Civil unions for gay people was voted by a previous leftist government DESPITE the current government opposing it. I dont understand why people celebrate this as if it is a big step forward. They are the ones who held Greece back.
They just did the math and figured out that voting for this is “profitable”, since the main opposition is the Left and gay marriage is one of the Left’s “weapons”.
They are trying to pinkwash their future constitutional changes, probably supported by the 3 far right parties that recently joined the parliament. They and Troika have made Greece a conservative country, i hope they are happy now that most young and educated greeks have left Greece. And that all remaining leftists are disappointed, disgruntled and broken.
Greece is 1 Orban away from becoming Hungary. The system is already in place, all media are controlled by the government, Greece has one of the lowest freedom of press in the World, not just in EU or Europe. The Left is split and in disarray and the demographics are beyond fucked. Noone is having any kids and tons of young and educated people have left Greece.
It’s not as if Greece has any other choice. Vote for Left and you get your banks closed and liquidity turned off. Vote for the Right and here have some negative interest bonds and infinite money(even though the debt is higher than it has ever been). Democracy in action.
Ask yourself, is Greece a sovereign nation? Do greeks vote for their government? If you have a gun to your head, are you free to vote? How can Greece issue negative interest bonds when the debt(per gdp) is as high as it has ever been? Why is noone talking about the greek debt anymore? Where are all those brave dutch politicians to tell us how fucked the greek economy is? Why are they celebrating “return to normality” when the only government that had a primary surplus was the hated leftist one?
How come the current conservative government can afford to give away so much money when the leftist government was forced to take insane austerity measures, that even the IMF opposed(but the other 2/3 of Troika demanded).
If the fucking IMF is going “yeah, this austerity is too much and counterproductive”, maybe you are doing it wrong. But thats what you get when you try to moralize economics.
Totally agree, you stole the words from my lips.
I’ll believe it when I see it, but if it does happen then I hope this is just the beginning of brighter days for the LGBT+ community in Greece
Let’s hope that is the case. Without any caveats.
@bossito 👍
