cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/3635039
Various thoughts:
Around 20 people weren’t properly covered by the gender categories, obviously we’re trying to be as inclusive as possible and a different approach will be tried next time
There were about 600 respondents, which gives us a accurate sampling of the active userbase. If you multiply any number by 3, you’ll get a fairly accurate representation of the full userbase each week. This means there are around 800-900 people who don’t identify fully as cis each week on this site.
Nearly 300 trans/gender diverse/questioning people unanimously agree that hexbear is an inclusive space
There was so much data on gender that I was really struggling to find a way to convey the data that wasnt a pie chart, graph, or an incomprehensible kalaeidoscope. If you have an idea on how to beautify the data, you can download the raw data here: https://pad.artemislena.eu/file/#/2/file/xzy4pck8on+oZp9yGRUIezR+/ - I further anonymized this data by removing time of response and any specific comments, I don’t think it would be easy for anyone to figure out who is who.
There were a couple of text responses that really needed further elaboration, I noted hexbear’s rules next to these comments
I’ll probably be doing a demographics survey sometime in the future, including basic fairly anonymous stuff like “what region were you born in” “where do the languages you speak originate” “would you describe yourself as a POC” “what age range are you in”.
The percentage of people answering they were cisgender increased by 8% than the previous survey. This could be for a myriad of reasons, such as cis people being afraid trans people will hunt them down in the public thread and assassinate them. Anonymity may have made them feel safer to respond. Regardless, way more people responded this time, which signifies that people felt safer responding to the cryptpad or it was easier to do. The leading question was a bit more inclusive than last time, but I think I’ll include both questions (are you transgender / gender diverse and are you cisgender) to see how people respond.
We have a lot of people that aren’t binary trans on this site.
Some of the questions were pretty funky and we got a lot of fuzzy responses on them as a result. In particular “After you realized you were trans/gender diverse, how long did it take for you to begin to act on it?” and “At what age did you begin transition?” caused a lot of friction, I think I will ask more vague questions in the future that lead to a path of more specific questions to capture better data, and to save people time. Questions like “Do you feel your gender transition had a defined starting point?” and some further ones.
Around 20 people each week on this site are cis she/hers, which is very low and roughly the same as last time. I feel like if hexbear ever starts hosting other federated stuff (like a federated tiktok or something) and can hook into it natively with lemmy, we’d see a better ratio.
I tried to be very sure any data with >2 people on it was clearly legible, I think some people might find it fun that there are others with their same fairly specific classifications per this survey lurking around on the site.
Overall I feel like the survey was a success despite some bumps.
You can find the other surveys/links here: https://hexbear.net/post/3016455
I made these graphs on company time
Isn’t hexbear like, one of the “transphobe” ones?..
I’m sorry if this is incorrect and i just insulted all of hexbear :(
EDIT: okay, I understand now that hexbear has dramatically changed and that they are actually a lot more strict on the rules than blahaj zone. People keep commenting the same thing on this and I keep being pinged…
No they’re not. Hexbear defederated blahaj.zone because we were considering defederating them because of their habit of co-ordinated dogpiling and harassment. A hexbear admin approached me asking me if we could make it work, because lots of hexbear users were keen to use 196 (our largest community), but the explicitly anti tanky leaning of the 196 mod team was a barrier for hexbear participation in that community. Ultimately, because I wasn’t willing to over-ride the 196 mods and tell them how to run their community, the hexbear community turned on blahaj.zone, and defederated us.
The message from the hexbear admin was “We want to use 196, but it’s anti tanky” but somehow, that morphed in to a hexbear community opinion of “196 mods are transphobic, and the blahaj admins won’t do anything about it”.
The truth is, hexbear and blahaj.zone both prioritise the needs of trans folk more than any other instances you will find on lemmy. But hexbear is driven by a political ideology, and blahaj.zone is not (though we have communities that are). And that difference in ideological perspective drives all of the rest of the noise and tension between our instances.
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Hexbear is the biggest safe space for literally anyone who isn’t a fascist.
If we define “fascist” as “not leftist.”
… and we define “leftist” to include tankies.
They ban anyone and anything with a hint of transphobia, to the point of defederating blahaj for not being hard on transphobes enough.
When the site was first created there was a big problem with stupidpols, and under the guidance of TransComrade69 underwent a purge of all transphobes on the site, including even people who were consistently downvoting posts/comments by trans users. This TC69 Thought, so to speak, continues to this day.
On the Hexbear thread there’s talk of doing a purge of mysogynists next, seeing how there aren’t many cis women on the site judging by this poll.
as far as I remember, blahaj wanted to defederate cuz of users complaining about hexbears being annoying with the imperialist kind of communism but then hexbear defederated first
edit: also, I don’t see how blahaj could be seen as not hard enough on transphobes :p
/c/196 isn’t very well moderated at all… It’s the biggest community on there
Also “imperialist kind of communism” lmao
I personally monitor the report that hit blahaj.zone. If you have an example of transphobia that was reported but allowed to stand by me or a 196 mod, I want to know about it.
well, thats what I remember everyone complaining about :p
also, doesnt seem like just one big community on a different instance not being moderated enough would be enough to defederate from the whole instance, specially since I remember hexbear wanting to stay federated to not divide the leftists+queers or something like that
specially since I remember hexbear wanting to stay federated to not divide the leftists+queers or something like that
No, that was me. I wanted to stay federated with hexbear because trans solidarity is more important to me than political ideology. It didn’t work, but I tried to make it work.
also, I don’t see how blahaj could be seen as not hard enough on transphobes :p
iirc the 196 comm had at least one transmed/truscum mod at the time of defederation, plus admins for Blahaj Zone refused to condemn an admin from another instance who said some transphobic shit, including accusing a Hexbear user of pretending to be trans for internet sympathy points or some bizarre shit.
Who was this trans med? Trans med folk are explicitly not welcome, and never have been, and no mention of trans med mods was reported to me, despite me being in direct communication with a hexbear admin.
Trans meds are banned, and I don’t care who they are or what they moderate. My stance on that pre-dates lemmy itself.
I have also defederated from and publicly called out instances and admins for transphobia and harassment, and have zero hesitation to do so again, so that second accusation is a strange one…
oh didnt know about that mod, hopefully they got removed but I dont like the 196 mods much in general :p
also what does condemn mean there?
edit: also, I don’t see how blahaj could be seen as not hard enough on transphobes :p
Afaik hexbear’s main problem was with an alleged lack of moderation on c/196 regarding chasers
A “problem” that arose only after I rejected an appeal from hexbear to ask the 196 mods to remove the anti tanky aspects from their rules and logo. Prior to that refusal, the “lack of moderation” didn’t seem to bother the hexbear community, who were actively seeking to participate in 196 according to conversations with a hexbear admin
I dont think Ive ever seen chasers (not getting banned) here, but Ive seen people not liking how horny 196 gets sometimes
Isn’t hexbear like, one of the “transphobe” ones?
the opposite, actually! Hexbear is rabidly supportive of trans people, and defederated from Blahaj Lemmy over its comparatively lax handling of transphobia.
And I don’t miss these soviet-simping trolls one bit
Not soviet simping enough tbh
weird non sequitur to the topic at hand but ok.
It is on topic of blahaj Lemmy and Hexbear defederating
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More like anyone eastside of the wall never forgiving Soviets for pillaging their towns and raping their mothers
Hitler is when a demsoc criticizes dictatorships
Hexbear used to have a lot of transphobes around 3 to 4 years ago, but now (as can be seen by the survey) it is one of the most accepting places for queer and queer adjacent identities.
Interesting. Didn’t blahaj zone block hexbear because of this earlier?
Quite the opposite.
It isn’t, but when I peeked it (looking for an instance) felt particularly hostile in general. My reading here about the drama makes me feel like them leaving did everyone a favor.
Too bad it has… other issues.
Yeah they do be posting about beans too much on there sometimes…
Really cool and thorough graphs, maybe she’ll do one on lemmy sometime?
