• KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    10 hours ago

    It’s a new contributor, which means it is contributing on top of already existing contributors like air conditioning and other industries.

    yeah but the part that i don’t understand is why this is relevant, sure it’s new, sure it’s not particularly effective but like. Do you really need to be using both the internet and the power grid to shitpost on lemmy right now? You can’t hold arbitrary standards for AI like “it doesnt do anything useful” and then post on one of the least useful websites on the internet with some of the least useful information either.

    If we don’t have AI, why don’t we just ban gaming hardware, it just takes up unnecessary production time and consumption costs, as well as electricity. If we’re banning those, why don’t we also just ban most home appliances, those consume a pretty good amount of resources also. And if we’re banning those, why don’t we go a step further and delete housing all together as well, it’s a wasteful industry after all.

    Like there’s a point where you start, and a point where you stop, people were doing the same shit over crypto mining, and then the same shit over NFTs, and now nobody gives a fuck about either, tbf sort of dead now, but still. It really just seems like outrage bait to me at best. It starts at “AI bad” because “ai bad” and then stops and “AI bad” because “AI BAD” it’s just illogical reasoning to me.

    data centers powering artificial intelligence could use more electricity than entire cities

    i really hate this stat, idk why people keep making this statement, you know what uses more electricity than some cities? Some other cities! wow incredible observation, some things use lots of power, and some other things, sometimes also use lots of power.

    You mean to tell me a technologically fresh and relevant field has popped onto the market and it’s leading to a massive increase in consumption of electricity, because it consumes electricity? Yeah, that sounds like industry to me.

    It’s literally just the mantra of do things and stuff happens. But people are mad about it.

    I just want us to live within our energy budget so we don’t cook ourselves.

    i’m assuming you’re referring to global warming here, and yeah me too, i would prefer we didn’t end our civilization over some stupid shit like global warming, but i’m more concerned about stuff like dirty energy production, the shipping industry, environmental regulations, things that actually tend to have an effect, rather than like, company consumes lots of energy for a little bit.

    BTW, recommend looking into the electrical infrastructure for china, they consume WAY more electricity than the US, and have vastly dirtier production. So if we’re going to complain about AI, go complain about chinese AI training instead.

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      You mean to tell me a technologically fresh and relevant field has popped onto the market and it’s leading to a massive increase in consumption of electricity, because it consumes electricity? Yeah, that sounds like industry to me.

      Yes, and because it’s causing a massive increase in the consumption of electricity it’s causing lots of pollution.

      BTW, recommend looking into the electrical infrastructure for china, they consume WAY more electricity than the US, and have vastly dirtier production. So if we’re going to complain about AI, go complain about chinese AI training instead.

      https://epic.uchicago.edu/insights/chinas-air-quality-policies-have-swifty-reduced-pollution-improved-life-expectancy/

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