• Nithanim@programming.dev
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    18 hours ago

    Every time this topic comes up I wonder how many computer systems this will break. Maybe we find out soon if this is really realized.

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      There are probably hundreds of thousands of devices out there that are smart enough to know about time zones but old enough that there no chance of a software update, for example APC UPSs and power strips used in data centres world wide and years beyond end of support.

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      17 hours ago

      I’d bet it actually simplifies as least as many things as it breaks. Basically all computers already keep track of time as a count of seconds since a UTC epoch anyway, and then do timezone conversions on top of that.

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        Well, in essence yes. But I have seen enough mishandling and homegrown stuff of custom date-time calculations that this could get interesting. I suspect that there are a lot of systems where the TZ database is never updated which at least will result in shifted displayed local time.

        Also, it is fun to get data from old programs and also from userinput where the actual offset has to be guessed from the timezone. And if that conversion data is old, fun is had. It does not matter how time is represented internally in this case.

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      As long as they can get tzdata / Olsen db updates before the first change, there’s usually no problem. But, I’m sure there are still devices out there using the OLD US switchover dates from the Bush era, because they have a different, possibly “hard-coded” rule set.

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    15 hours ago

    Great policy. Misogynistic, racists, liar will say anything for attention, tho.

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    He was quoted out of context. He wants to separately eliminate daylight, savings, and time.

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    If I remember correctly, the issue last time is that they wanted us on permanent Daylight Savings Time, instead of Standard Time. So I expect Trump to force the U.S. onto permanent DST, just because all science says it would be worse for us than going to Standard.

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      Science says it’s better to have day light in the morning and dark at night

      But people aren’t waking up at 5am and going to bed at 5pm so it really doesn’t enforce standard time

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        Standard time is better for health, someone made a better argument for it in some other thread

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          Ah an argument, well I guess it’s settled then and it won’t ever be worse than the other way around

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            Right, you’re free to look it up further but it messes with the internal clock or something. For my latitude, DST sucks

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      I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but I want permanent DST. I want it to be light when I get home so I can spend some time outside without a flashlight. I don’t care if it’s dark in the morning, I’m working. Don’t tell me to just work different hours, I already work 6am-3pm, which is the earliest I’m allowed at my current job, and a lot earlier than allowed by many jobs. I still only get about an hour before dark where I live.

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    To avoid confusion, all of the US will be on DTT (Donald Trump Time), which will vary based on where he currently is.

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    Seeing a lot of talk on here about keeping Standard or DST.

    Oh my God for the love of all that’s holy just let them pick one!

    I don’t care if the sun comes up at 2:00am or 2:00pm or even if the sun fuckin’ sets at 12:00 noon. Just pick a time and stick with it. Holy shitsnax.

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    I don’t know who chose that headlining image of him pointing (and looking) at the sun, but it’s perfect.

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      This has been in talks for years already. This is not a Trump thing The Senate passed the act that would have removed it unanimously in 2022

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    I mean, I have no great love for DST, but I have no faith that they can do anything but completely fuck it up somehow. Whatever results will be at best, no measurable improvement, but at least a monumental pain in the ass for those who have to do the work to keep shit on schedule during the morass.

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      If they’re using the 2022 bill they’re already fucking it up. Kids are going to be walking to school in the dark in winter and get hit by cars because they want to pretend that we’re a few thousand miles east of where we actually are.

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        So maybe we could do the other thing that scientists have been saying, and make school start later. Obviously just one of the things that would need to be fixed, because school is currently a glorified daycare (because both parents are working, yay) and changing the times would fuck up parents’ lives.

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          Sure, but we should do that independent of this. Schools need to start at least an hour later on standard time. On DST they need to start two hours later at least.