I just blocked one yesterday. Ain’t got no time for dat crap.
Even with everything that’s going on, I still don’t really care about someone’s beliefs or political views. It’s definitely harder these days for sure, but i still try. I’d much rather talk things out and understand someone before I decide to just hate them. The problem is that they are fucking rude and trying to start arguments all the damn time. It’s literally just the trolls that show up.
I’d much rather talk things out and understand someone before I decide to just hate them.
Looks like you care about believes and political views. You just don’t care about superficial labels.
That’s great, by the way. It’s the way to go.
I see what you mean. I do care, but it’s more like I don’t use it as a basis for why I don’t like people. Never been a fan of boiling a person down to just one thing about them. Unless you’re just straight up an asshole to people for no reason.
Hey dude I hate everything you do But I’m trying really hard to not hate you Hating you won’t make you suck any less
— AJJ, “Kokopelli Face Tattoo”
Your choice to engage with the folks around you sincerely, and in good faith is appreciated ❤️
Because the Fediverse is so small, we all have a larger impact on the culture of this space, and I appreciate the impact you’re having.
Tankies are right wing
I now think of Tankies as being Alt-Left, just as modern conservatives are Alt-Right. Both are extremists, both are okay to use violent upheaval of society to get their way, both routinely ignore actual facts in favor or alternative ones (bOtH sIdEs SaMe), both are nearly incapable of having any kind of normal conversation without dragging politics into it (just look at any “meme” or “comics” community, especially just after Luigi), both have next to if not fully zero consideration for the other part in any conversation, both use nearly identical methods like “control the conversation” and “gish gallop” and “the card says moops” (from Innuendo Studios’ The Alt Right Playbook series, but I notice that the tactics at least apply equally well to the Alt-Left) and so on.
Once you see it… you can’t really unsee those similarities. But they aren’t quite exactly the same, bc while they both shill for Russia, they use different talking points. So… there’s that, for whatever that might be worth (very little imho).
Alt left wants to violently overthrow the tyrants preventing us from having viable public services and having a fair society.
Alt right wants an ethnostate.
Alt right spends hundreds of millions a year astroturfing social media to convince people that authoritarianism isn’t an inherently right wing ideology.
I used the word “similarities” rather than “identicalities” for a reason, and not only bc the latter is not a word!:-P
Although take a look at how much “freedom” is available on places such as Reddit, vs. on lemmy.ml, and from the results you can form your own opinion.
For myself though, I think it laughable to consider how China or Russia or North Korea offers more “freedom” (to be sent to war against Ukraine more like it!?) than the capitalist empires of the West. Even a stopped watch is correct twice a day, but the enemy of my enemy is not always my friend.
That’s the problem with using such a simplistic term to label people. I think when we say left or right it would be useful to specify which spectrum we’re referring to. So if I’d try to define a “tankie”, I would say that they are extreme left on the economical spectrum and extreme right on the liberty-authority spectrum.
extreme left on the economical spectrum
You cannot be this while praising China or Russia
I’ve tried telling them that China is the biggest capitalist country in the world. They didn’t like that…
In the US companies run the government. In China the government is the company.
Are you a “Hitler was the real socialist” kinda guy?
Probably more of a “Soviet inspired systems aren’t socialist” kinda guy.
Hitler, like all authoritarians, was right wing.
Nazism was a religious nationalist movement. Right wing.
Turns out calling yourself a leftists doesn’t just make you one.
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There’s a fourth instance bloc the apolitical ones such as Mander.xyz and sub.wetshaving.social
Wet shaving is awesome and safety razors should come back… but an entire instance dedicated to it? That seems excessive.
I was told that !stick@sh.itjust.works is political, I guess wetshaving would be too
Yeah I agree with this sentiment. Rather than seek understanding and openness, we should always strive to eliminate those who disagree with us, and never seek to progress our collective understandings especially through peaceful means. If you think about it, attempting conversion of another is immoral because it is an enforcement of your personal morality onto others. Therefore elimination and silence is the only just and good approach. Temporary peace among disagreeing parties is permissable, so long as it leads to the destruction, ostracization, or total exile of another group.
Right wing extremism isn’t an opinion
I get your point but also I think it’s nice there is a place I can go on the internet where I don’t have to deal with those weirdos. By virtue of the groups in question you are also framing “we should run society differently i think this way would be better” and “i don’t think gay and trans people should be allowed to exist” as a mere disagreement.
I think the main problem is that the majority of them come in ready to fight with their arms swinging. I’m down to have a normal conversation with just about anyone, but if you come in and just start insulting people and starting fights you can fuck right off.
Strive to peacefully understand the non-peaceful
