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It’s really telling about the state of Republican politics that this convicted rapist clearly committing criminal initimidation in a public forum is the frontrunner candidate for them in the upcoming election.
Trump has not be convicted of rape. That’s misleading terminology and conflates the lower standards of a civil trial with a criminal one.
Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/For the Legally Literate: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045.212.0.pdf
You are entitled to your opinion, however afaik you are not the judge in this case, and your opinion is not legally binding.
Multiply impeached President #45, Donald J. Trump has been found guilty of the charge of rape, according to the legal opinion of District Judge Lewis A. Kaplan.
There’s an important difference between civil liability and criminal guilt. They are very different things and you’re hurting your own argument.
I’m a terrible debater, and terrible arguer. Did you by any chance read the court document? Or the part in the WaPo article where Judge Kaplan says “The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Kaplan wrote. Emphasis added.
He raped her. No doubt. But as far as the state is concerned, he didn’t because it has never been criminally adjudicated. The judge can say that he did, but that doesn’t make it a criminal conviction. He was civilly liable for the rape. Saying he’s convicted is factually inaccurate.
Same thing with OJ Simpson. He was found civilly liable for those murders, but not criminally guilty. Pretty much everyone agrees that he murdered those people, but he’s not in prison right now because he wasn’t found guilty.
In the same vain, Trump has not been found guilty of rape.
All of this doesn’t mean that Trump didn’t rape that woman in actuality. It just means that he wasn’t convicted. And telling people he was convicted is disingenuous at best and a flat out lie at worst.
