- cross-posted to:
- BuyFromEU@europe.pub
- cross-posted to:
- BuyFromEU@europe.pub
cross-posted from: https://europe.pub/post/7501
What European email services do you use?
Please recommend other interesting email services by your experience.
I have switched from Google’s Gmail to ProtonMail and kMail. I really like both, kMail (by Infomaniak) have very similar app interface to Gmail so you will get used to it very fast and also have big storage for free and very good offers for paid plans 👍🏼
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I tried
- Proton - too expensive
- Tuta - too limited
- infomaniak - i like it, but also limited
Created new domain name in cloudflare and got free account at zoho. It’s free badic account, but with a symbolic gesture of 0.9 euro a month, you also get smtp, IMAP etc… and it plays very well with cloudflare!
Thanks for the list
Runbox.com! I’ve been using them for years after Lavabit was shutdown. Based out of Norway, affordable, and privacy focused.
Fuck Proton and their Trumps-ass-kissing CEO though.
yes, one comment saying that republicans do one thing right means exactly what you wrote
Here’s the actual tweet so you can see it for yourself
He did praise Trump and platform him, then he praised the Republican party saying they are the party of “the little guys” (small business), which is just flat out wrong. He does not acknowledge that there are an abundance of things Trump is doing that is fucking awful and disgusting. At best it’s an extremely tone-deaf tweet.
What that comment does is paint Trump and the Republican party in a very good light and ignores other things they do that are terrible, illegal, and much more important than a single cherry-picked action. That’s effectively an endorsement (i.e. ass-kissing) without saying it in exact words.
Also, it’s so very obvious that anyone associated with Trump absolutely needs to abide by Trump’s every whim or else he will replace you. So, the point he was trying to make is entirely moot in the first place.
There is just no way to praise Trump or the Republican party without showing your ignorance or alignment with them. Just like you can’t just have a little bit of shit in your food. Once you’ve got even a little bit of shit in your food, then you’ve got shit-food. Or, in this case, a Trump-shit stained CEO’s mouth.
It’s one more than I’d like.
Here! I found the American bot.
Proton is a perfectly good alternative. Encrypted and European based. Also one of the easiest User Experiences for those moving out of Gmail.
This kind of nonsense just creates confusion and leads to people sticking with Gmail/Google
Edit: the bots also vote. Yay
Is “bot” now the new “NPC” for morons?
Why did you completely ignore the content of the comment? You’re the one sounding like a bot here.
Because the content of the comment has been addressed multiple times in threads like this. As with everything, the world is not black and white.
This thread and comment on Reddit do a better job on addressing the comment (sorry for linking for Reddit)
https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyFromEU/s/nfKrbQtYZt
We know Trump for over a decade now. I don’t buy this apologist approach to excusing the shitty behavior of people in the spotlight. If you have half a brain you know by now what type of person Trump is and from a CEO I expect more then half a brain.
Regardless, Proton products are a better choice then Google.
@professionalspooner @verdigris @buyeuropean people are entitled to their opinion though. If they don’t want a product because of it’s CEO, that’s totally fine
E.g.: see Tesla nowadays.
Yeah but if they spread misinformation about the CEO, it can be called out
Why not explain yourself here? I don’t want to give Spez the traffic
I am sorry. I would never make it justice to the whole discussion.
Here’s a troddit link which I just learned that exists andis open source.
I hope that’s helpful.
I would never make it justice to the whole discussion
Then maybe don’t act like you’re the one with the answers more than everyone else.
Calling someone a “bot” doesn’t refute anything. It’s just a childish response because you disagree. While you also seem to be unable to explain this stance for yourself. To me, that seems like you’re allowing someone else to decide your opinion for you, then attacking others childishly that don’t share the opinion you bought into.
I don’t like what you’re saying. You must be a bot!
Explain please.
I’m sorry, but they are an even more closed ecosystem than even Gmail: one cannot use a regular email client with Proton
@exchange12rocks @professionalspooner @buyeuropean AFAIK with a paid subscription you can set up a bridge which would allow you to use it with Thunderbird etc
I didn’t know about the bridge, thank you!
Yes! That sucks.
From what I understand, that’s their way to do e2e encryption between proton emails. They have this bridge thing, which unfortunately you can’t use on free plans.
Proton Mail Bridge is a desktop application that runs in the background, encrypting and decrypting messages as they enter and leave your computer. It lets you add your Proton Mail account to your favorite email client via IMAP/SMTP by creating a local email server on your computer.
I agree that this is a problem, and that it is worse than Google.
But for me personally, putting it all on a scale I still think it is better than having your emails mined for ads targeting.
Thank you for the explanation - didn’t know about the bridge 👍
You’re the only bot here bud
If what you want is encrypted email, and see it in the form of a chat, take a look at ArcaneChat
I’ve been happy with Belgian based mailfence.com for 4+ years on one of their paid plans.
mailbox.org has a web app, so no need for a client app.
And Posteo also supports POP3, IMAP and SMTP, so you can use every mail client with support for it.I use eclipso.de. it’s free with ads or i think 1€ a month premium
I have an e-mail adres with my domain name, but my personal mail is still Gmail. However I’m looking into changing that. I’m thinking about proton mail but I’m not sure yet. I’m trying to do research into what’s best long term.
Proton, no thanks to the Government of Putin supporters. Tuta could be the winner for me.
Switzerland supports putin?
Switzerland supports putin?
I dunno man, Wikipedia says otherwise.
The country has a history of armed neutralitygoing back to the Reformation; it has not been in a state of war internationally since 1815[5][6] apart from the Sonderbund War(Switzerland civil war), joining the League of Nations in 1920[5] and did not join the United Nations until 2002.[7] It pursues an active foreign policy and is frequently involved in peace-building processes around the world.[8][9]
On February 28, 2022, Switzerland imposed economic sanctions on Russia and froze a significant amount of assets held by Russian civilians and companies as “punishment” for the invasion of Ukraine. Some described this as “a sharp deviation from the country’s traditional neutrality.”[10] According to Swiss president Ignazio Cassis in 2022 during a World Economic Forum speech, the laws of neutrality for Switzerland are based on The Hague agreement principles which include “no participation in wars; international cooperation but no membership in any military alliance; no provision of troops or weapons to warring parties and no granting of transition rights”.[11
No Nazi supporters please
Buy a domain and just use a ISP of your choice, don’t lock in again with another domain not under your control.
Although depending on your configuration, it might be a battle against spammers.
I switched over to Proton a few weeks ago, so far so good. They had my name available so no more weird convoluted email address anymore yay!
I would highly recommend buying a domain name and use that for email, will be a lot less pain if you have to change provider again
Oh nice hadn’t heard of KMail and I’m trying to degoogle. Proton’s fine but the owner is another tool so options are nice
Oh it’s KDE even better
KMail is not a service by KDE, you probably confused it with KMail, the mail client by KDE. It’s a service by Infomaniak.
Thanks for clarifying! I’m new ~~
It was also pretty hard to find information about it, searching for “ikmail” will get you there easier. I also found out it’s technically not available in Canada yet, although I’m sure this shouldn’t be too hard to circumvent.
Yeah, I’m not sure why the creator of the image used KMail when the name is not even used by Infomaniak themselves.
You don’t need a client app for mailbox.org? I use it just fine on any standard mail client.
That’s what they mean, it doesn’t have its own client.
