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Five Republican Minnesota state senators plan to introduce a bill classifying “Trump Derangement Syndrome” (TDS) as a mental illness, defining it as “acute paranoia” about Trump’s presidency.

The bill argues TDS causes hysteria, verbal hostility, and aggression toward Trump supporters.

Critics argue this represents a dangerous politicization of mental health diagnoses that could suppress political expression.

The bill will be read Monday before the Minnesota Senate Health and Human Services Committee, where Democrats hold a narrow majority.

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    The senators who proposed this should be removed from office. This is beyond a farce.

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    So Gender Dysphoria is bullshit, but TDS requires tax payer money thrown at it…

    Shut up GOP you’re drunk

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    And I’ll fucking wear that diagnosis with pride. Fuck them all, he’s factually terrible.

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    I can’t tell if they’re joking or are dead serious anymore.

    I have a mental illness – 2 of them actually, Major Depressive Disorder and Generalized Anxiety Disorder. Possibly will get PTSD thrown in that mix soon too. Therapists and Psychiatrists use a little book called the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, DSM-5 for short. Unless they can convince the APA to include TDS in the DSM-6 then it’s not a mental illness.

    This is nothing but thought policing and a way to label someone with mental illness when they really don’t have one. It’s also causing all of the work that’s been done recently by NAMI, MHA, and AFSP to try to end the stigma surrounding mental illness to be set back to the era of mental institutions (something that their beloved Reagan did away with).

    But what the hell, might as well add it to the DSM-6 and slap TDS on top of all my other mental illnesses 🤷🏻‍♂️

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      they’re both. they’re trolling us, and they’re deadly serious. it’s the “haha jk unless” approach to manifesting Overton window shifts with irony, aka meme magic.

      my comment here analyzes it more: https://lemmy.ml/comment/17320556

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    the fucked up part is if there is a president after Trump it will take decades to fix the damage he did in 2 months.

    we’re still suffering from Regan’s decisions

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      There will be a president after him. He cannot live forever, thank fuck.

      Whether that president is actually democratically elected is yet to be seen.

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    Would it be so hard to put Minnesota in the title? (Not op, the publisher) (But also op)

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    This is a test. They’re seeing if they can outlaw objecting to Dear Leader by legally classifying it as a dangerous psychological condition.

    This is not about mental health diagnoses. This is the pregame to the American edition of the night of the long knives.

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      This is what Putin does to Russians who criticise him, eg making anti-ukraine war stickers or graffiti.

      This is also what used to happen to women who wanted to get a divorce or generally wouldn’t obey her father or husband. They called it hysteria and thought that it was because of the ‘wandering womb’, yep they thought her womb was wandering around her body, woo woo.

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          Its insane, I guess they do want to bring back those traditional values - of having someone committed for disagreeing with you.

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      Back in 16~17 a guy I was working with was accusing people of suffering from tds. One day he said it to me , I laughed and said " you don’t know where that term comes from do you?"

      He looked at me confused and curious “no, where did it come from?”

      I said "man that’s some shit Hilary Clinton came up with to describe trump supporters , your so fucking stupid your using it all wrong 🤣!

      I never heard him say anything about tds around me again.

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          I have no idea where it came from, sounds like something rush Limbaugh would have said actually. I was just getting tired of hearing dude say it to people

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    It’s the other way around.

    The mental illness is not “paranoia about Trump’s doings”, paranoia about Trump is normal when you’re a decent human being who is thinking clearly and fact-based, because then you should absolutely be paranoid about an unhinged, mentally unstable, dangerous fascist taking power in the US. If that doesn’t bother you, I’m sorry, but you’re probably simply uneducated. See old Nazi Germany for “prior art” on this one.

    What could be considered a “mental illness” is what causes people to believe or support Trump, or the current Republicans, or the MAGA movement, or the current right-wing extremism in general. This is likely an issue of either low education, low intelligence or naive belief in various forms of internet propaganda. Or multiple of those issues combined. So it’s not really “illness” but rather a misinformed and/or radicalized person. Similar to what cultists become in real cults. Fascism is very cult-like in general. There’s usually a supreme leader and a doctrine (usually based on falsehoods) to live by, and everyone who doesn’t do that is considered an “enemy” or at least inferior. What you read on the internet and especially social media or “alternative news sites” is already often weaponized and might be able to radicalize you or lead you away from the fact-based truth. There’s TONS of disinformation, sometimes harmless, sometimes funny, but sometimes not. Sometimes it’s dangerous, especially if you’re not able to spot what’s likely true or not. If you aren’t able to filter out disinformation, propaganda, lies, half-truths, weird memes, i.e. if you are unable to stick to reputable sources, peer-reviewed science, and so on, then you WILL fall for at least some amounts of misinformation and you MIGHT even become part of a cult (e.g. MAGA movement, conspiracy believers, anti-vaxxers, QAnon, radical right-wing extremism, …). And again, it’s all weaponized and that is useful for various involved parties for various reasons. For example, Putin wants misinformation on social media because with it he can destabilize Western democracies, because common citizens fall for this stuff and lose faith in their own governments. The end result helps Russia, because Western democracies will then do less and be less united against Russian attacks. Billionaires like Musk or Zuckerberg want misinformation on social media because with it they can better control the narrative and extract more money from the users because polarizing and extreme content gives them more interactions and thus money. Billionaires also want less governmental regulation, which is why Musk already demolished several regulating bodies in the US. Autocratic fascists like Trump also want misinformation on social media because with it they can control the narrative better. What these involved parties all don’t want is the actual truth, so they are usually anti-science, anti-education, anti independent journalism, and so on. It’s better for them if the common people are uneducated and uninformed, and follow the newly created doctrine. It’s easy to tell that they want to create their own fake version of the truth, and control the narrative in that way.