Edit: The admins have told me if I don’t say this was an accident then they will remove the post.
It’s is verifiably an accident. It is also extremely convenient for the people she threatened.
This seems to be misinformation. The family confirmed she died due to epilepsy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Aber#Death
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Oh, how convenient!
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You are still spreading conspiracy theories
“Debunked stupid conspiracy theory” -yeah but we live in a world where many previously unthinkable and unbelievable things have acrually happened. We live in a world where it’s 100% plausible that difficult people could be “taken care of” by the current reĝime.
It’s only ok to be wrong if you’re a Republican. If you’re a Democrat you have to be right 100% of the time. This brings you down to 99.99%, how dare you.
Can we not pretend to be as dumb as the flat-earth tumpers?
Her family came out and stated she suffered from epileptic seizures, and believed that was cause of death. There’s literally nothing worse than the family having closure, and being continually harassed about the death of a loved one because of psychotic internet conspiracy theorists. There is no basement in this pizza parlor.
Yea it’s a known thing that people with epilepsy who live alone are at higher risk of ‘spontaneous’ death. If they have a seizure that prevents them from taking their anti-convulsant medication things can get bad fast.
Sudden death in epilepsy is one of my biggest fears. My seizures are well controlled, but there’s still a chance my brain will just blue screen anyway
It’s a fear of mine as well. My partner has epilepsy, and works from home. There’s a non-zero chance that she could seize while I’m at work, and nobody will notice until I come home 8 hours later.
Edit: The admins have told me if I don’t say this was an accident then they will remove the post.
It’s is verifiably an accident. It is also extremely convenient for the people she threatened.
Dude, that’s a weak-ass response. Do yourself a favor and delete this.
No <3
Is there a Lemmy feature to block unfounded conspiracy theories? Shit like this will get me to stop using this site, for the same reason I wouldn’t use Facebook even if the privacy issues were solved.
We like to use our brain as the filter here.
Twitter screenshots don’t count as quality journalism.
We like to use our brain as the filter here.
OP has 916 upvotes vs 57 downvotes
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I don’t want to sound like a shill, but I’ve created a Custom GPT to help recognize distortion/misinformation/propaganda.
https://a.lemmy.world/lemmy.world/post/27608970I’m hoping to receive more feedback on it. I’d love some help refining it too. Yes, I plan on open sourcing it once I get past the “OpenAI problem”.
People were making this claim back when the news first broke and since then the top search result including her name is “Jessica Aber cause of death”. The cause is officially Epileptic Seizure, and her family has chimed in to say:
"It is with tremendous sorrow that we acknowledge the sudden passing of our beloved Jessica (Jess) Aber, who died in her sleep on Saturday, March 22. Jess suffered from epilepsy and epileptic seizures for many years and on Tuesday, March 25, Alexandria (Virginia) Police said in a statement that they believe her death was the result of natural causes.”
So while it is possible that she was somehow drugged with some rare exotic neurotoxin that isn’t tested for, or she drank some suspicious glowing tea many years ago, it’s very very unlikely.
SUDEP (sudden unexpected death in epilepsy) is quite rare, so this explanation of “natural causes” makes the situation a lot more suspicious.
SUDEP is rare, but that’s only because other people tend to be around during seizures. She was alone all night, and epileptics are also more likely to seize in their sleep; Something like 75% of all seizures start while the person is asleep.
I agree that making it look natural is much easier when the person is epileptic; The list of medications that interact with (or directly counteract) epilepsy meds is a mile long. However, that doesn’t mean we should immediately default to “it was a hit that used one of those drugs.”
SUDEP is rare, but that’s only because other people tend to be around during seizures.
What are you basing this statement on? (the causality part)
However, that doesn’t mean we should immediately default to “it was a hit that used one of those drugs.”
Of course. Occam’s razor still applies here. But knowing how resistant ME/MDs (depending on state) to put “epilepsy” as the cause of death, the “it was seizures” explanation remains unusual. BTW, I ended up looking into it, so the chief ME’s report is still pending. So it’s not like anybody has final conclusions and everybody’s speculating here.
She suffered epilepsy for years leading up to her death in her sleep. SUDEP is assigned when no other cause of death is found, but in the strictest sense this was neither sudden or unexpected.
not that I don’t believe the Russians aren’t capable of it, but my uncle died of “sudden adult death syndrome”
just one day fell down and died, no cause determined. As far as anyone can tell wasn’t even a heart attack or an aneurysm (sp?).
My ex-spouse’s step-mother died from an acute case of not being alive anymore. She was in physically good health, good heart/blood pressure, mentally sharp, was a distance swimmer, ran, smoked occasionally (like 1-2 cigarettes a day), and was in her mid-60s. She collapsed in a supermarket and was dead before any help could arrive. The autopsy couldn’t find any cause of death; no ruptured aneurysm, no stroke, no heart attack or heart issues at all, no drug interactions, nothing. She just… stopped being alive.
Shit happens sometimes, and there’s not always an obvious cause.
But that’s usually a sudden cardiac arrhythmia. again I’m just saying that citing a very rare cause of death does not eliminate suspicion of foul play from a medical perspective, it amplifies it.
If anything, being able to explain it away by saying there are other valid options like “usually cardiac arrhythmia” is only weakening your point. It does not strengthen the idea that it must be one particular thing, like SUDEP, but it sure as shit doesn’t help the idea that she was assassinated. You could even be correct but it would be purely luck if this is how the conclusion is arrived at.
Also rare is not a non-zero chance. Even the smallest percentage is made up of real people.
My only point is that a nonchalant “oh it was just seizures” statement raises a lot more questions than it eliminates. At least from an MD’s perspective.
Then your point was incredibly poorly made. The only questions I can see it raising are about what could it be besides a purposeful murder and, if we’re feeling crazy, about the intentions of the poster. Thinking that everyone who doesn’t agree with us outright is a likely government plant is stupid, though, so I hope anyone with an MD perspective wouldn’t be too hot for that idea.
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You again?:) unless she died of aspiration pneumonitis, based on the information we have, this seems to meet criteria for SUDEP where the theory is a generalized seizure hitting the brain stem leading to sudden arrhythmia and cardiac arrest or respiratory arrest. But since it is sudden, and unexpected, there are very few instances captured on EMU. Also, it doesn’t seem likely that she was suffering from intractable epilepsy, otherwise she wouldn’t have been able to fulfill her duties as a judge, it’s always possible that she just stopped taking her medications, but even in that situation SUDEP remains rare. But please, tell me more about your Google search.
What if you’re wrong?
The meds aren’t always an insurance. she could be between meds if in case she’s had recent episodes and needing to change a perscription. This has happened to multiple people i know who are dealing with seizures as their lifestyle.
I’m sure the family had gotten the autopsy to be going the length of posting it as the official cause.
Totally possible, but high risk patients’ medication switches happen in the EMU (epilepsy monitoring unit).
Again, we are missing a lot of information here.
As many as 1 in 26 americans have symptoms of Epilepsy, 3 million have been formally diagnosed with epilepsy, it does not disqualify you as a judge.
“ symptoms of epilepsy?” Epilepsy is not a symptom. Anyway, Google intractable epilepsy.
Epilepsy is not a symptom. Epilepsy has symptoms.
“of” as in belonging to or annotating to, like “William of Orange” or “Side Effects of Ritalin.”
your search engine implies “seizures” as the symptom but given the existence of provoked/symptomatic seizures, not all seizures meet criteria for epilepsy as your edit now suggests. And most epilepsies aren’t intractable. Which is the point about its impact on employment/ job duties.
Dying from epilepsy is only rare in circumstance that a person isn’t close by. Chances of Dying from epilepsy is quite scarey in that there is a possibility on every single epileptic seizure that a person could die.
People with epilepsy have a chance of dying if they are awake and no one is around fast enough to do anything.
Almost lost a neighbour this way.
if they are asleep there is less a chance someone might come by. Because everyone else is asleep and unless someone is in bed with you they wouldn’t know to wake up and do something to help.
97% of seizures spontaneously stop in less than 5minutes. People on medication ( that they actually take), seizures tend to be shorter and in the setting of partial onset epilepsy (which is usually the case in adults) they are also more focal or shorter at breakthrough. So yeah, technically any seizure can kill you, but in reality they very rarely do. Also, the family of this person was comfortable having her alone in her home suggesting this hasn’t been a regular occurrence etc.
Of course, this doesn’t mean anything but again, it is unusual.
97% of seizures spontaneously stop in less than 5minutes.
Does that mean that 3% of seizures require intervention?
I would imagine the probabilities aren’t independent, but if they were, the probability of someone staying in the 97% for 10 seizures in a row is 73.7%. 20 seizures in a row drops the probability to 54%. Under that math, even if the probability of something going wrong is low in any given seizure, someone who has many seizures in a lifetime will likely experience something serious at some point.
Does that mean that 3% of seizures require intervention?
I should have put over 97%. But yeah for a generalized tonic-clonic seizure lasting longer than 5 minutes is called “status epilepticus” and that is a risk of lasting injury and thus warrant intervention. Just not the kind that bystanders are able to provide.
I would imagine the probabilities aren’t independent, but if they were, the probability of someone staying in the 97% for 10 seizures in a row is 73.7%. 20 seizures in a row drops the probability to 54%.
Yup, probabilities are not independent and if those clusters of seizures happen minutes to hours from each other, the risk of injury increases further. Also, with more and longer seizures the epilepsy tends to become increasingly harder to manage. But epilepsy comes in many shapes and forms so it depends on the specific kind. The adults who die of epilepsy usually don’t die “unexpectedly” meaning they have certain comorbidities that increase the risk of dying (e.g. heart disease), etc.
It means maybe take off the tinfoil hat for a bit.
Yeah, just because something is unusual, it doesn’t mean that another unusual explanation is automatically true.
while i also believe this is nothing more than a coincidence,
i have to admit that, if she were truly deleted, her family would be instructed to repeat a favorable version of events.
Yes. The Russians killed her and had a sit down with her family where they told them to stick with the narrative of her dying by natural causes or else the Russians would be very, very mad and the family agreed to go along with it. And this all happened on American soil. That’s the most likely explanation for sure.
(/s because some of y’all… Just /s, OK?)
Did they have to be Russian?
Lmao “instructed” bro this ain’t North Korea.
We should renember that the MAGA Nazis don’t mind killing people, or even let other nations kill people.
In their first term, they allowed Saudi Arabia to brutally murder and dismember exiled Saudi dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi, because they didnt want to derail their $10 billion arms deal with the Saudi goverment.
We knew theSaudis intended to do this, and they were informed that there would be no negative repercussions from the MAGA administration. So we didnt warn this dissident journalist, writing material that was 100% protected by the Constitution, living legally in America, working for an American newspaper, that his life was in danger, and let him go to his gruesome death.
They let a foreign nation murder someone under American protection. Does anyone really belive they wouldn’t allow the Russians to do it?
BTW, they also let a loyal MAGA Moron get his head blown off during their phony staged “assassination attempt.” They don’t even protect their own.
USA has been supporting the worst violence and tyranny possible in SA for decades if not centuries.
Full bi-partisan support.
It’s like a pyramid scheme.
We’re at war
No. You already lost.
Decided to surrender to a few spies who sold you cheap propaganda.
Now it’s resistance time.
The war against the Russian mob state goes on for others, regardless of how tired the unfathomably rich Americans are. The rest of the world doesn’t get to take a day off because America decided to tap out.
Aber was found dead in Alexandria, Virginia, on March 22, 2025, at age 43.[11] A family friend said that her death was “believed to be the result of a longstanding medical issue”,[12][13] which was later revealed to be epilepsy.[14] Authorities did not initially release an official cause of death.[2][15][16] Four days later, the Alexandria Police Department said in a statement that Aber likely died of natural causes, but that they would wait for the final ruling of the chief medical examiner.
i mean, that’s pretty concrete.
Assuming this wiki info checks out. I would be inclined to believe it. Unfortunate timing i suppose, but it could happen at any time.
Could all be lies. We see a similar pattern of russian officials that died suddenly in the last decades and it’s often a longstanding medical issue.
I wouldn’t trust official US reports nowadays. There’s also the MS13 angle, but I’d believe they would have promoted their actions in a more grim fashion.
Police and examiner are also easily bought.
i suppose, but then you would also expect that the same thing would happen in the US, this is the first death, where are the rest? Perhaps in the future, but we have no basis to assume anything right now.
I wouldn’t trust official US reports nowadays.
this would be county level, possibly state level examination, almost certainly with the independent authority of the examiner in question, the likelihood that this is federally appointed would be baffling.
Police and examiner are also easily bought.
It would be easy to find evidence? Paper trails? Testimony? The family even? There are so many arguments against this.
Could all be lies.
And monkeys COULD fly out of my butt.
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Sure, but you have to subscribe.
but muh conspiracy!
literally this, the left is brain fucked now.
The right too. Just, stupidity everywhere, as far as the eye can see.
family friend vladmina butin
Even the Seth Rich conspiracy was more plausible evidence than this being a disposal
The CIA had a heart attack gun decades ago.
Making someone’s cause of death an epileptic attack, either for real or on paper, would be absolutely trivial in 2025.
You’re not wrong. People with epilepsy have a really hard time getting medicated for other things, because the list of drug interactions for epilepsy meds is a mile long. Even common things like decongestants can trigger a seizure.
You mean the one that shot bullets made of ice? That wasn’t real, actually. The CIA made it up to impress/intimidate the Russians.
That appears to be about a gun that fires plastic/metal darts, not frozen venom payloads.
I’m like 99% sure the US government is capable of discreetly poisoning someone to have an epileptic seizure
If you think GRU doesn’t have activated operatives operating on US soil, you’re dream’in.
Seizures aka “you know we did it but you can’t prove it” is Vladdy’s trademark.
The US fingerprint is more like the 2 Boing whistleblowers.
To be fair - most assassinations by Putin have a much more obvious tie.
She didn’t fall out of a window, she didn’t get exposed to Novichok, and it doesn’t sound like polonium.
That being said, still could have been assassination but by other Russian mobsters.
Sadly, it could have been the stress of losing her career and possible threats in her future that exacerbated her condition.
Or really it could have just been shitty luck too.
Let’s stay focused on the real conspiracies with Trump, musk, vote manipulation (look at mail in ballot rejections), and Putin’s digital army garbage.
Hes usually much less subtle than than a seizure, particularly for a victim with a documented history of seizures.
An assassination doesn’t have to be by a gun or poisoning, it can be done by stealing and/or replacing her seizure medication.
Replacing or stealing medication does leave evidence
Either one of those should leave evidence in an autopsy and in a bottle at the scene. Putin doesnt normally kill people like that though, at least when its a revenge killing. He wants everyone to know that he did it, that there is nothing anyone can do about it, and that anyone could be next if they cross him.
Smart assassin’s get as much info as they can on their victim and use methods to make it look like natural death
Assassin find out they have seizures, they make it look like death by seizures
Pretty sure polonium and novichok is their style. Very fucking obvious.
They use those things when they want the world to know it was them. The number of countries with access to Polonium or Novichok is extremely limited, and both are very easy and obvious to detect in an autopsy.
When they don’t want the world to know, they make it look like a suicide or accident, e.g. falling out of windows.
asdf
Evidently the family had said she had a history, so they would have had to be playing a long game. I suppose they could have been opportunistic about her condition to make a plausible death, but a plausible death to someone no longer involved in any inconvenient cases doesn’t help any such cases nor does it “send a message”.
Sometimes things just happen.
I’m more than willing to accept the “things just happen” theory considering the timeline we live in. Pieces of shit like Trump and McConnell live forever and get everything they want while good people die in their 40s.
Shitbirds only get stressed when they’re worried they’re going to be held accountable. Everything else is an act. Stress is a killer, and the amount they feel is minuscule compared to anyone who gives a fuck.
But, but, if things just happen how could I show I’m smarter than everyone else by figuring out the REAL cause? Nope, must be a conspiracy.
Not necessarily if they just knew what triggered it. Especially if they could trigger a bad one somehow
You missed the point that they have no motive to put effort into making it look natural. She was no longer a threat, so an accidental death does nothing for them. They could have killed her to “send a message” but that would be undone by making it look like natural causes.
Bad people dont just wipe their hands of enemies when they stop. Until they stop breathing.
Bad people typically do bad things because they provide some perceived benefit. I have no doubt that Russia would kill her for the benefit of sending a message, but they wouldn’t try so hard to make it look like an accident.
You would if you wanted to leave alive and make it look suspicious enough it could have been anybody. The country she represented has a lot of enemies all over the world.
It’s such a trope it’s in like every fake spy movie. If you get caught we don’t know you.
Well they do have a motive to make it look natural, they’re still actively fishing for plausible deniability, they’re not going to go throwing people out of windows here. If she had a history of seizures, they without question knew it and could leverage it into unaliving her. The idea that she was resigned and no longer any kind of threat is naive, she could be in possession of a lot of damaging intel, given her activities.
I’m not saying this is definitively what happened, I’m just saying that dismissing it outright is probably too optimistic. Some consideration should be given to the fact that a) she was young, b) she went after Russian interests and c) she’s dead.
Even if they were to find something in the autopsy though, I doubt we will ever hear anything other than “natural causes” because America is fully a Russian vassal state.
unaliving her.
You don’t need to use Newspeak to bypass filters here. It’s okay to say killing or murdering or assassinating
I didn’t use the word because I was trying to bypass filters. I like the word.
im like 99% sure that they wouldnt bother.
The plans would have leaked out by now lmao
The word RUSSIAN was plastered before you like 9 times and you came to the conclusion “USA DID THIS”
I mean… Yeah, dude. Have you seriously not noticed that our current administration is in bed with Russia?
The players are on the same team regardless of nationality. The war is beyond nations, but nations are a tool to forward the war. Humanity vs the soulless. This war is bigger than borders.
Thank you for posting and saving me from hunting for this
Sounds like Havana Syndrome.
Where my tinfoil hat…
According to the article, that’s the families guess and the autopsy/ examination hasn’t even been completed/reported yet. Little odd to be really successful in an “intelligent” field and have epileptic seizures that kill you in your sleep.
Consider sophisticated assassination tools like the Bulgarian umbrella. Then realize that was invented 50 years ago. Imagine what the Russian spooks have access to now.
This is how they create fear to resist. Resist harder!
We lost back in November when ninety million people helped MAGA sign us up for this.
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I’d recommend not recommending assassination as an option. Lemmy World is pretty strict on advocation of violence.
We’ve been at war since 2022 at the latest.
and since late 2024, Russia has been winning that war. Not on the ground mind you, but in regulatory capture of the United States, and takeover of the Information space. (Information war)
At the earliest I’d say it was whenever someone in the US shared an RT News story
