After months of secretive planning, and preparing the crew to defend their ship if necessary, the Royal Canadian Navy has transited the Taiwan Strait.
As HMCS Ottawa entered the busy and strategically critical body of water at sunrise, it was flanked by three Chinese warships armed with missiles and torpedoes. They mirrored Ottawa’s moves for the entire 17-hour crossing.
Canada made the journey along with the USS Ralph Johnson, a U.S. Navy guided missile destroyer, in what both countries describe as a freedom of navigation exercise.
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Sounds like China and USA have similar priorities.
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Do you know anything about Chinese history? Governments have been overthrown because of their response to floods, not ownership of any particular island.
It was also a common belief that natural disasters such as famine and flood were divine retributions bearing signs of Heaven’s displeasure with the ruler, so there would often be revolts following major disasters as the people saw these calamities as signs that the Mandate of Heaven had been withdrawn.
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Uh, if they cared that much about Taiwan they would have taken it by now. They care more about economic stability than “unity”. If you have a degree in “Asian Studies” that includes the Warring States period, you wouldn’t know about political science or economics. You know, recent history?
The “Mandate of Heaven” is just an idea, but they don’t want to go putting ideas of incompetent government in people’s heads. That’s why they either try to respond well to disasters or cover them up.
It is your position that China doesn’t care about Taiwan. Really. I think you have allowed yourself to be baited in to a stupid position.
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Can you guys please keep arguing about chinese history? It’s very informative
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This is the point. To divert the focus point.
Ah yes, they should be like the Canadians and concern themselves with territory near Nova Scotia and send their ships there; you know, totally sensible stuff.
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I agree with you; but the parent comment is accurately drawing a parallel. Both China and Canada have issues and both are worried about a strait which objectively isn’t ‘theirs’.
The difference is
- China has bigger problems, but the strait is at least close; although China is being a bully
- Canada has lesser problems, and the strait is on the other side of the planet; but they seem to at least be defending the public good.
Point being, tying this to China’s flooding is silly. If Chinas actions are dumb, it is for unrelated reasons.
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Canada isn’t there for their claim, they are there to maintain it’s status as an international waterway
China bad, West good, we got it. Let’s go kill them, just to make western chauvinists happy.
A better Canadian comparison would be Jamaica (originally was going to be included in Canada), or the Northern US states (we have to US to prevent future conflicts after 1812)
But that would assume Canada is actively claiming it and was the aggressor. A more homely example is Russia’s claim to Canada’s arctic territory however even that has been mostly diplomatic
“That’s not your strait, budday”. Sorry I couldn’t stop.
“I’m not your budday, guy!” - Winnie the Poo.
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Nobody owns the water, It’s God’s water
Im sorry you’re getting downvoted. I appreciated your super troopers reference.
God is dead. We use the term international waters now.
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Oh, the CCP showed up to accompany them. That’s nice to know for anyone else thinking of making the trip solo. With such support, I expect we’ll see more people making the sail without needing to worry.
And here I was under the impression that the CCP was all against China since it claimed ownership of the mainland bit. Maybe they’ll give it back to China.
They were with US middle destroyer, so not exactly solo
I’m not touching you!
~ Trudeau
Canada doesn’t recognize Taiwan as a country. How anyone in Canada’s leadership thought this was a good idea, I don’t know.
There’s an order of operations that should go down before going through.
First recognize Taiwan.
Then acknowledge their territorial waters.
Instead, we get this cosplay of an actMore like territorial waters is 12 nautical miles for the coast so even if Taiwan was considered part of mainland China, the straight is like 90nm wide so a majority of it should be freely navigable by any ship. China doesn’t think so and claims the entire thing as territorial waters.
China’s claims are absud, even extending to waters bordering the Philippines. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=spratly+islands&ia=web&iaxm=maps&strict_bbox=0
Taiwan claims those waters as well…
Most people don’t understand that both People’s Republic of China (“China”) and Republic of China (“Taiwan”) claim the same borders and territory and pretend “Taiwan” is being opressed.
I am sure if the ROC defeated PRC in the civil war the issues of Tibet, the strait and the South China Sea would be just given to China because China would be a US ally and NATO member along side being a permanent UN security seat member
China would be a US ally and NATO member
I didn’t know China was located in the Atlantic.
Correct. They’d be a Major non-NATO ally:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_non-NATO_ally
On a close relationship like Japan and Republic of Korea
But other than that, my point still stands.
By the same definition, crossing the median in a plane shouldn’t be worthy of mention.
canada is a nato nation and nato recognized taiwan as an external ally sooo…
It’s not really a cosplay if the missiles are real
If we simply reject that fighting for Taiwan’s sovereignty was the sole motivation for this action, I think things make a lot more sense.
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
As HMCS Ottawa entered the busy and strategically critical body of water at sunrise, it was flanked by three Chinese warships armed with missiles and torpedoes.
Canada made the journey along with the USS Ralph Johnson, a U.S. Navy guided missile destroyer, in what both countries describe as a freedom of navigation exercise.
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Wang Wenbin told a June news conference that China is firmly determined to defend its sovereignty and security and regional peace and stability.
During the crossing, CBC News journalists saw that firsthand, with hundreds of cargo vessels leaving Chinese and Taiwanese ports bound for international destinations.
But Yuki Tatsumi, co-director of the Stimson Center’s East Asia program, a Washington think-tank, says Canada’s involvement rejects that thinking.
The Canadian frigate is on a nearly five-month deployment and is now plying the South China Sea, through which more than $4.6 trillion in cargo, a third of all global trade, passes each year.
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