• IvanOverdrive@lemm.ee
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    I’ve been living outside of Canada for a number of years now. Up until recently, I actually became more proud of Canada. Patriotic even. I almost convinced myself that Canada had something special that the rest of the world didn’t.

    That all came crashing down because of three things:

    • Unmarked graves of native kids at former residential schools. 250 in BC. 751 in Saskatchewan. They were just kids. How many more haven’t we found?
    • Horsy pigs pointing AR-15s at unarmed Wet’suwet’en protestors. On Wet land. In their own homes. Why? For the gall of protesting against the inevitable environmental disaster that the Coastal GasLink pipeline would bring.
    • More horsy pigs letting the convidiots run rampant around Ottawa, and hugging and kissing convidiots at the Alberta border.

    Kid gloves for white people; violence for natives. It crushed me to realize it, but Canada is an ethno-state like any other.

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      You lost me at the ethno-state. They are issues to be addressed sure and it’s good to put them on the table instead of shoving them under it but you can’t just cherrypick the worst offenses and conclude ethno-state.

    • CorruptBuddha@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Kid gloves for white people; violence for natives.

      Umm… I’m not sure how to approach this, because I’m pretty sure people don’t care about the facts and just want to push whatever political narrative, but here:

      https://news.sky.com/story/amp/people-thought-we-were-scum-forgotten-legacy-of-british-children-sent-to-canada-12971791

      Also man… The freedom convoy was removed, had their accounts frozen, officers that donated to the convoy were disciplined, and docked pay. At the time I compared it against a pipeline protest by native people, and they were both removed in equal time.

      Remember Occupy Wallstreet? Go google Occupy Wallstreet Kettling, and tell me how “handled with kitty gloves” people are.

      The thing I can’t stand about all of this is Natives recieve tons of support, and recognition in Canada. Like dude. I’m not saying racism doesn’t exist, and I’m not saying there isn’t generational trauma, and other issues, but just as a matter of fact, in Canada under law Natives aren’t given less, they’re given more.

      But fuck reality eh.

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        It’s called Restitutions. It’s when white people say 'My bad!!’ and bashfully try and make good of the atrocities they have orchestrated in the past against ethnic groups, more often than not half hearted and poorly distributed.

        “Oh shit! We massacred your tribe and stole your children? What? The children had their teeth yanked out instead of getting dental care? Soorry, eh. Have a field house for your shitty little park.”

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      I think “like any other” is the key take away here.

      Canada isn’t any better, but for the most part is also not worse than anyone else in these matters.

      That’s not to say that we should be excused for doing the bad things (as a culture/society) because other people also do the bad things and sometimes worse bad things… no. Everyone is guilty. It’s a global problem. The names and groups change, the methods change, the outcomes change somewhat, but the story is largely the same regardless of where you go.

      The only logical conclusion is that we have a long way to go before the civilization we have built, could be considered “civilized” in any way, shape, or form.

    • Grant_M@lemmy.ca
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      The solution as always is to stop electing ‘conservatives’. All people want to move hard with reparations and reconciliation with the exception of RW politicians and their white supremacist base. We need to outnumber them at the polls until they have no say.

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      The internet will always be be telling you that you should hate your own country. No matter which country you’re from, it’s the worst country in the world. Funny how that is.

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      I fail to see the nuance in situations like residential schools. Could you perhaps educate me so I can come to a more informed conclusion than sending thousands of indigenous Canadians to schools designed to stripped them of their culture is a bad thing to do.

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        Oh we’re not even talking about all the ones they straight up murdered and successfully hid for decades in mass graves?

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      Indigenous rights in Canada is like the silent ‘b’ in doubt

      It’s there, no one pronounces it and everyone hates it when they have to write it.

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    Is this a shitpost because blue actually represents the Quebecois who view themselves as oppressed the way they oppressed Indigenous People, for whom orange/yellow/black/red/white are more representative colours?

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          Hitler’s American model describes Hitler’s dreams to match the power of the colonial powers of the day, Britain and France. But his inspiration came from the colonies themselves. In this book the American model with regard to race is explored, rather than canadian systems, but clearly Canada is not very different in that regard.

          Some highlights:

          • The Nazis found that the one-drop rule was too harsh - (only because mixed Jews were somewhat white-passing whereas mixed Black people couldn’t pass and remained legally Black).

          • Manifest Destiny inspired Lebensraum (probably Canada and Australia too).

          • Nazi Race Law/Blood laws and second class citizenship laws for Jews were inspired by similar laws in the US (‘legal realism’ justification’).


          A fun long-read.

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            You literally named USA for all 3, get the fuck out of here you hatemonger. The fuck is wrong with you spreading disinformation like this?

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              I’m describing the ‘highlights’ in the book you illiterate. What’s difficult to understand?

              Canada is a state, its not possible to hate-crime Canada you twat.

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                Who the fuck said hate crime? And your highlights were all the USA so why the fuck would I read your trash book?

                You’re fostering hate against another country, nobody said it was a crime but you’re telling lies to discredit a country for no apparent reason.

                Blocked, goodbye hatemonger.

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                  Are you denying that Canada is a colonial project? Or are you mad that other people on the internet are aware of your Yaroslav Hunka problem? Of which there are many in Northern America from what I hear.