Literally impossible to avoid Nestle. Even going to a restaurant or getting take out, benefitted Nestle in some way. Really it’s the fault of governments for allowing a corporation to get that big
It’s hard but not impossible. When you go grocery shopping always look at the back of the product to see if it has the taint.
Problem is indeed the restaurant as you can’t be sure if they didn’t you nestle products.
I can’t help but notice you have disagreed with the comment above you, then gone on to explain that the exception to your disagreement is the exact scenario they described.
Except no? Its not “literally impossible” to avoid nestle. You simply have to shop your groceries more mindful.
But okay, if its utterly impossible to look on the back of the package and or do a quick internet search to see if that label belongs to nestle, yeah its impossible.
Joining in because why not. The comment OP never mentioned groceries. They mentioned how it’s impossible to avoid Nestle when eating out/getting take out, which you agreed with.
The important thing is, they disagree, can’t we just leave it at that and be angry in peace?
Nah, man. Getting shitty at people on the Internet is one of life’s greatest joys.
Subsidiary companies, basically companies that are owned by another, to my knowledge are not required to display that they’re owned by another company. Or if they do, it’s in EXTREMELY fine lettering.
A lot of the time, you have to have an encyclopedic knowledge of what brands are nestle brands, or yes, it’s actually impossibly to make a decision.
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Sure, its pissing against the wind. And I lose out on kitkat and lion (damn i liked that bar) or I need to buy “clones” but I can’t wholeheartedly buy their shit. It may not be much, but atleast i can live with myself.
You could order KitKat from the US. Hershey makes it here.
I wouldn’t recommend it though, Nestle KitKat is much better. It’s a shame Nestle is so evil or else I’d be driving over to Canada to stock up every few weeks.
The amount of sugar and palm kernel oil in Nestle chocolate makes me not even enjoy their products if I get them for free. They barely taste like cocoa
It’s not always that obvious. Nestle owns many companies and many of those products say nothing about Nestle on them.
https://charlesstover.github.io/peoplecott/
That website helps with the products that aren’t obviously marked Nestlé.
Thats a searchable list of all products/brands by Nestle? Thats quite helpful!
Sure they do own many companies. I just dont think its impossible, as I steer clear of anything nestle. Sometimes I grab something new and sounds interesting like the Vegan products by Gourmet Garden and just putting it quickly back as I saw nestles logo printed on the back.
It takes a bit of discipline.
Lol, no, you don’t understand. Companies (literally millions of them) own many other companies that they never put any logo on or anything. For an outside of Nestle example, check out this list of companies owned by Kroger that you will never find anything labeled by Kroger inside of:
https://www.kroger.com/i/kroger-family-of-companies
Also this list may be VERY incomplete because it’s hosted by Kroger and they have no obligation to give the entire truth here.
Food 4 Less, Ralph’s, and Jay C Foods all have Kroger brand foods on their shelves. Not sure about the rest as I haven’t shopped at the rest of those stores. Also they are attempting to acquire Albertson’s.
I’ve never seen Kroger nor any of that companies. Do they sell in Germany?
And if the umbrella company is proud of thier products they bought, of course they put their label on it or state it somewhere. Where else would be the point of it? Brand recognition and all.
Kroger is a grocery store chain in the US, I suspect they don’t operate in Germany but I might be wrong.
They basically are or own many different grocery store chains across most of the US.
I think you’re missing the point I was making. There’s a lot of Nestlé products that don’t have their logo anywhere on the packaging because it’s instead made by a company Nestlé owns
can you give an example?
Because all those products https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nestlé_brands are made by “companies” that on first look are not “owned” by nestle even though I always saw their huge logo somewhere on its packaging.
“It takes a bit of discipline.”
Also, you should work on your tone, speaking like you’re holier than thou is already cringe, but when you’re wrong it just makes you look like a big idiot.
I don’t think they were saying it ONLY takes a bit of discipline. To me, the charitable interpretation is, they’re saying that they see something new they want, and see the nestle logo, and the act of denying the want takes discipline.
You’re both right, of course. It DOES take discipline to always put back the nestle-labeled goods, and there are MANY nestle-subsidiary-owned items that don’t have a nestle logo in sight
Edit: ok, a bit lower hea def being holier than thou a bit lol
Yes it does take a bit of discipline. And no, I dont think I’m holier than thou.
Is it? I’ve not knowingly consumed anything from Nestlé in 20 years.
Edit: I have a bland palate and having a dairy allergy helps. I’m also incredibly stubborn!
That’s awesome! I think it’s important to note, however, that the burden of change here is not on the individual. The average person is not an activist, and shouldn’t be expected to be. Nestle knows that, too.
Change on this scale can only happen through government regulation.
That’s an interesting justification for contributing to Nestle. There’s no more personal responsibility left in this country I swear
Do you also wear blood diamonds and eat veal?
No.
Doing your own part as much as you are aware or capable is good, but if I were to try to avoid anything unethically sourced, I simply would not be able to participate in the modern world.
Do you use electricity? Do you have a cell phone? Have you ever used anything battery operated, like a flashlight? Have you ever eaten a hamburger? Have you worn a shirt?
Going around shaming people for things that are simply inevitably contributing to some unethical corporation is useless. We just need to agree that there is a problem, and do our best to make change.
I’m all for making personal commitments on topics you feel passionate about. But the fact is, that won’t make a difference on the grand scale. Only through government action is that possible.
Actually you can make a difference. I guarantee there are at least a couple younger family members that look up to you.
Any children you might have will learn from your example.
It really seems like you were trying to justify contributing to a truly evil industry by saying that there are plenty of other evil industries…
“Well nothing is ethical so I don’t have to be!”
Do you also wear blood diamonds and eat veal?
Why, do you expect me to wear blood rubies while eating veal, like some prole?
Oh you’ve consumed Nestle, you just don’t know it. They have over 200, brands and millions of individual products. Not to mention their non food companies. Again, it’s an issue that governments should have dealt with long ago, and never should have let them get that big
Eating zerocarb (aka carnivore) works, especially if you only drink tap water; Add coffee and you have to be a little careful
Also be careful on soaps and hair care
Zero carb has its own host of issues, not just from the nutrition side of things, but also a host of ethical concerns
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Oh really? Funny I haven’t seen any nutritional deficiencies in my year on that way of eating, and haven’t died of scurvy even once. In fact I’m in the best health I ever have had since I was a youth
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Ethics? Eating animals raised on grass (in places which don’t support other agriculture) is worse than clear felling forests to support monoculture cereals?
My food supports the land it grows on, which hosts a myriad other species
Wow, you only eat meat from animals which you yourself raised, slaughtered and prepared?
Even if that were the case (which it isn’t), not everyone can do that.
Do you know, why that is?Because eating animals is wasteful as fuck.
Btw. What do you think you “animals raised on grass” (which they aren’t) are fed with? Maybe soy from monocultures?
Also, serious ethical questions even for “ethical” slaughter.
no OP but that REALLY depends on where you live. rn i know about 4-5 farmers that raise cattle ONLY on free range pastures and dont subsidue their feed with anything else and can buy directly from them without any middle men
and i fucking hate the “so what if you can, others cant” argument in threads like these. OP was stating that they do this and its better for them. never did they say its better for everyone to do this
I live in Australia near our mountain pastures. The meat supply is a mix of local grass fed and finished beef and lamb, and grain finished beef from up north
The grass finished meat has a healthier fat balance and tastes better
I always ask butchers where my meat was raised and how it was finished as that affects the ethics and flavour. I agree with you that meat raised on grain is wasteful.
Where’s the waste in what I buy? They drink from mountain streams, they eat grass. Most of their meat goes to human food, most of the rest goes to pet food, the skin becomes leather
When I cook more meat than I can eat, the extra goes in the fridge and I eat it for the next meal
On the relevant subreddit (which hasn’t moved to Lemmy) I have heard it’s easy to get grass finished beef in the US too
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For those who want sources: https://www.fucknestle.art/#crimes
Fuck Nestle but also kitkat tastes good
All my homies buy the off-brand Kitkats that, despite the significantly lower price, use Fairtrade cocoa.
well poland has WW (from e.wedel)
i rrspect them a lot more then nestleExcept E.Wedel is owned by Korean chaebol Lotte. Which is… I don’t even know honestly, I just know chaebols do a lot of fucked up shit. I guess my point is there is no ethical consumption under capitalism
There’s a European store near my house called wedel lmao. I’ll see if they have it there
They’re so damn good, but I try as much as I can to not buy them
Yes, boycott Nestle, but it isn’t so easy, since almost all products in the Supermarkets belong to this company.
https://wyomingllcattorney.com/Blog/Everything-Owned-by-Nestle
I dunno, Nestle owns basically the who’s-who of terrible processed food and snack brands. Avoiding them isn’t just good activism, it’s good for your health, too.
Assuming you don’t live in a food desert… Or have a baby that requires more milk than you can produce… Or have a pet that requires a particular diet…
Correct me if I’m wrong, but it seems that as long as you don’t buy processed foods in America you should be able to easily avoid Nestle?
Not only in America. Yes, you can avoid processed food, buying fresh food, but Nestle isn’t only processed food, also water, almost all brands of coffee, sweets, cosmetics, animal food, etc… If you live on a farm with a garden and chickens, with your own well and drink an herbal infusion instead of coffee, washing with your own soap. maybe you can avoid using Nestle products.
Around 3/4 of US adults are either overweight or obese; avoiding giving into the urge to eat processed foods is a problem all on its own
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Awesome!
Keep calling them out!
@lelgenio I hate how many companies are owned by nestle
N-E-S-T-L-E-S Nestlie does the very worst!
