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- cross-posted to:
- lemmy@lemmy.ml
- selfhost@lemmy.ml
Would it be a good idea to import all posts from /r/warframe into dormi.zone? (maybe using the linked scripts)
There is lots of useful information in old reddit posts and they are pretty consistently among the top google results for various Warframe-related searches
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I’d very much prefer if all of those old Reddit posts were preserved for posterity. If nothing else, I like to go back and re-read my old posts, and now half of those are gone…
Well, it would be great if there was an API that allowed getting those posts at a reasonable pace… :')
I’m open to opinions, but I think that right now we have a great opportunity for this community to grow organically.
well the API is still free for now, wink wink
r/Warframe links here, it’s how I found it. You’ve managed to organically come up with a bad take.
I don’t use r/Warframe for the “Community” and I’ll bet a large majority of the “Community” members are like me, they used it for the knowledge base. If the same amount of information isn’t here, as it was on the subreddit then as soon as a Warframe alternative takes off on reddit again, that’s where I’ll probably go. More information, more users.
I made this account to suss out what kind of stuff I can find here, It’s nice to have so many conversations starting with 12 responses that are essentially filler conversation. Who knows, maybe organically in a few years time, the information here will catch up but if an alternative with more information comes along I’ll move there and never even think of whatever Dormi.zone is hosted on again.
It’s nice to have so many conversations starting with 12 responses that are essentially filler conversation.
I don’t know what you expected. Keep in mind that the Lemmyverse has never had a Warframe community before.
What information are you missing? I hope you understand that I can’t just copy the entire sub over without any filter.
https://dormi.zone/comment/68235
I’m not saying you need to copy the information over, but that information is valuable. Whoever is currently in control of the Subreddit and it must be someone here, needs to set it so no new posts can come but people can still access the unbelievable wealth of knowledge that has accumulated over there. Denying people access to it isn’t punishing reddit or whoever spez is, and it’s certainly not helping whoever is losing access to the apps, If anything it brings more awareness to Dormi.Zone if done correctly.
In the linked comment from @baconboyloiter is a perfect example of how it affects the general Warframe playerbase. The Warframe reddit knowledge base is way too much for anyone to take this seriously until it’s got its own base to work from, that will take time and your general user is not going to care to contribute to an unproven source. I don’t even know what a Fediverse is, but I’ve seen that word so much trying to just work out how Lemmy works. Unfortunately, the blackout doesn’t make me dislike reddit, it makes me dislike people who make these choices that are essentially hurting everyone.
I found out about the blackout because of r/Warframe, I have no hat in that race. I’m not angry or bothered by whatever is happening with reddit and the apps, maybe I should, but I don’t use reddit that much. I am however annoyed someone took the ball home because they were upset.
We’re currently discussing internally on how to proceed with the subreddit. No matter what happens, the knowledge base on r/Warframe will not be lost forever.
That’s good, and great for whatever decision you all come to, but how many mods are their making this decision? How long is it going to take? The decision and time being taken by a few will affect the warframe hobby of many, for what accounts to “We don’t want you to support reddit, so you can’t!”
I’m all for the new platform, and I’ll try contribute and help my fellow Tenno, but a big part of that right now is advocating getting access to the information that people will want. The weekend is almost here, and more people will be online, I’m sure I’m not the only one upset by the actions of the Warframe reddit mod team. I think you’d find people are okay with the change, as long as it doesn’t hurt their time.
That’s the issue though, a lot of our daily content is various general questions of how warframes work, and if their build is ok. The information is accessible via wayback machine as well as adding
cache:to the beginning of the URL. Additionally, users who dont have links can help by requesting the particular guide or resource that they are looking for so that we as a community can salvage, and the ones that aren’t exactly bookmarked by many can still be retrieved as the most active mods do also have a hand in curating the dormi.zone.That’s still a bad take, you’re asking the user to excuse your decisions. I assume you were a mod on the subreddit, do you still have access to all that information? If so, what makes you and the mod team behind the scenes the ones who decides gets access to it.
It’s hard to root for the side playing keep away. I know I posted on the subreddit, under the assumption people would have access to that information when they needed it.
Also, what happens if the team behind Lemmy do something you don’t agree with, will all the information here also be taken from the end user because you don’t agree with it?
Again, I have no stake in the Reddit fight, i couldnt care where I go to talk about warframe or on what website. I exclusively used reddit for Warframe, having that taken away wasn’t Reddit, it was the moderation team.
Having something like a ‘WarframeArchive’ community here which was just a copy of the subreddit would go a long way towards making this less of a painful migration if that is indeed the plan.
A good reddit alternative is needed at this point, but losing the information on the subreddit would be a massive blow to the accessibility of the game. Could that information be remade, sure. But that would still mean losing years and years of game history. While things like old redtexts and thoughts about the removal of coptering is not really relevant to the game anymore, it is still part of the history and seeing things like that lost to the mists of time is just depressing.
There are alternatives, but those are pretty much:
Make the sub read only and direct over to lemmy - if you want to affect reddit in any way is suboptimal as a lot of traffic would still go there. It would also most likely lock all of that content to the subreddit once the api changes are in effect.
Open the subreddit again - This would most likely just kill the lemmy community in it’s infancy since the vast majority would just go back to posting there
Try to use cached versions of the subreddit - This is the worst option in my mind and the one we are currently stuck with. There is no guarantee these will remain up for any prolonged period of time. And even if they are it is a clunky way to find the information you want and as much as it pains me to say it, too advanced for many.
For these reasons I believe we as a community need somewhere else to find the information stored on r/warframe and the script linked in the main post seems like a good way to do that, but the caveat is that it has to happen before the api changes go into effect. This puts us on a two week deadline and with the subreddit set to private there is no way for anyone aside from the mods to actually do this. Once the information is off reddit that should be the time to ask what to do with it, but first that data has to be obtained while we still have the chance. For that reason I implore anyone with access to the subreddit to archive it now while we still can, or to open up access to someone who will. Once July 1st rolls around that will all become infinitely harder to do.
Yes 100%. Need to do it ASAP before API pricing kicks in. Also, the sub needs to be set to RESTRICTED and have posts redirecting to here. Redditors still don’t know where to go, that this site even exists, etc.
I think it would be useful, but… I feel like things are going to get really spicy really quick if subs start trying to pull data.
At the end of the day, I don’t know if there’s much Reddit can do. IANAL/etc, but it doesn’t seem like they’ve tried to claim ownership of posts.
Honestly, even if the law’s on Reddit’s side in that I want to see that. I want to see Reddit burn more good-will telling their userbase ‘we own whatever you say on our platform’ which could easily be interpreted as the corporation saying ‘we own you’.
I’d pay to watch that shit show
well in any case I’m not proposing any kind of ongoing sync, just a one time import of the current posts
The TOS does claim ownership of anything you post, FWIW
