• Cogency@lemmy.world
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    Just sad with the lack of support. Just tired of fighting for existence. Stochastic terrorists win again should not be in another headline I have to read again in my life. Hugs to all of you out there fighting through headlines like these.

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    In the Thursday working session, Representative Matt Moonen stated that some of the language in the bill that has come under attack “did not further the goals” intended of the bill and moved that the bill “ought not to pass,” essentially recommending that his own bill be killed in committee.

    This doesn’t sounds like a dead issue. It sounds like the bill had some potential problems and they want to touch it up before sending it to the floor to be passed. Maine can still get its trans refuge state status. Not that that is going to stop the right-wing from lying about it, of course.

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      Well voting red is definitely not going to be better, and not voting or throwing my vote away to a third party is the same as voting red.

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        Voting for a third party is simultaneously voting blue and red, if you listen to the blues they tell you it’s a red vote while the reds are in your other ear complaining you just voted blue. The fact that it pisses off both the republicans and the democrats frankly is an indication that I have made the correct decision.

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          It should be the correct decision, but when the realistic options are maintaining the (lukewarm at best) status quo and genocide we kinda dont get to make the correct decision unfortunately

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            Well if you listen to everyone, the choices are genocide or genocide, so I suppose you’re free to pick which genocide you’d prefer.

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        Cool that you don’t care about using even the minuscule amount of power you hold in a democracy to vote for something better. That position makes you the bad guy btw.

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          So what’s the play – who are we voting for to get something better?

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            Don’t bother engaging with this guy. He’s problematic. Vote blue this time and work toward better representation later. We can’t change the broken system overnight.

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                Well voting in the general election is binary. There are no other choices than Republican or Democrat. You have to choose between those two or it’s effectively the same as not voting.

                So it’s not just this time. It’s every time because of how the electoral system in America works.

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              The system isn’t broken. That’s what liberals don’t get. Its working exactly as its intended to. Learn the history of the US and tell me this isn’t exactly what all those who set it up intended it to be. Where are all the Buffalo where are all the dead tribes of people whose land, settlers and colonists took. The few that survive have little culture left or live on RES’s. You can’t fix a fascist empire with voting and doing little else.

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                I can’t fucking stand anyone that uses the word liberal. I know this shit is working the way it’s supposed to. I know that violent revolution is the only way to make change. I also know that people that use the word liberal aren’t the ones that should have input on revolution.

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            There is no state or county that only has the party of Capital on the ballot. So just don’t vote for the party of Capital at the ballot box. You can and should do more stuff outside of voting, but as far as voting, do not vote for the party of Capital. If you do vote for the party of Capital you are telling them that your rights are negotiable. That you will support them unconditionally, and most importantly, the people who prove by their actions they obviously do not care about human rights, will continue to be in a position to block out anyone else that could possibly care about human rights.

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          I’ll be spending my trans ass time setting up mutual aid for food, housing and meds for all I can. You can vote for whatever wealthy fuck you want. We don’t live in a democracy. We live in a republic with a fascist ideology. What’s the headcount of babies in cages after biden? More than Trump. They are all the same, Fascist bastards. The Democrats are no better they just hide it better. I’m not saying don’t do anything, just that the liberal is the same as the rest. And focus on something helpful instead of a cult of blue hoping checking a box will save people.

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      Gia Drew, Executive Director of Equality Maine, stated in an interview with Erin In The Morning that the bill was “probably not the right fit” for Maine and that “the climate has changed” over the issue, pointing to some of the complexities within the bill as well as outside disinformation attacks. When asked why the bill wasn’t amended to make it a better fit, she stated that she did not know why that route was not chosen.

      Drew did express hope, however, for future versions of the legislation and pointed to prior successes, stating, “We were able to pass one of the most historic laws last year in that same committee.” The state had previously passed a law that allowed trans youth above the age of 16 to consent to gender affirming care without parental approval.

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      Politics is similar to the ecological structure and development of a forest. You begin with grasses which shield fledgling shrubs from the elements. The shrubs eventually push out the grass and make way for trees that push out the shrubs and then trees that push out the earlier trees. Then fire and flooding that brings you back to step 2.5. Focus on trees after you slit the stem of every single shrub and hope fire doesn’t set you back after.

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          In a vacuum, absolutely. With human meddling inadvertently causing hotter, longer, broader, and more frequent fires, natural fires can cause a full or partial reset more frequently. Except in aus. Eucalyptus is future-proof. Just like politics, ecology finds people are the problem.

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            This such a white western take. Indigenous peoples all around the world have been using fire to benefit ecology. People are not the problem. White fascist, colonial actions and ideals are the issue.

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                Yeah cause reverse racism exists and talking about the history of the world and how your view point is clearly skewed by racism colonialism and white fascism is totally racism in of itself.

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                  Reminds me of a conversation I had a decade ago about “reverse rape.” It’s just rape. Academic study of racism hasn’t made “power+prejudice” the de facto definition and, as a result, it’s ostensibly racist to say “white western take.” I say this, once again, while agreeing with you.