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    If he means the massacre being carried out with his involvement of the semitic peoples of Palestine, he’s right

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    Calling Hamas/ Palestinians antisemitic is like accusing wwii-era Korean/ Chinese/ Malaysian resistance groups etc. of being ‘Japanophobic’ against their occupiers, or trans people of being ‘cisphobic’ against transphobes.

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        I checked your link and that outdated charter you quoted also links to their 2017 charter. Point 16:

        “16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.”

        EDIT: For those who wants to see it directly in case the above gets taken down: https://irp.fas.org/world/para/docs/hamas-2017.pdf

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      There absolutely is an excuse for Hamas’s actions because their two options are to fight or to live forever in an open air prison.

      Their actions are just as justified as MK’s during Apartheid.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Israel then launched a military offensive in the Gaza Strip, in which at least 27,585 Palestinians have been killed and thousands more are feared buried under rubble, the Hamas-run health ministry said.

    “It is obvious that we owe the same emotion and the same dignity to the French victims of the bombings in Gaza, and this tribute will be paid to them at another time,” the official said, without giving a date.

    The Elysée said the key message of the memorial ceremony for the victims of the 7 October attacks was the “fight against antisemitism and through it … all forms of hatred, racism and oppression of minorities”.

    Yashay Dan, a relative of one of the French-Israelis believed still to be held hostage, Ofer Kalderon, said he hoped the ceremony could “resonate all around the world, not only in France”.

    Tzipora Levy, whose son Yitzhak was killed at the Nova music festival and who had travelled to Paris, said the ceremony was symbolic amid the sadness felt by families.

    There was controversy over some of the politicians attending the Paris ceremony, with many families of French victims saying they did not want to see figures from Jean-Luc Mélenchon’s leftwing party, La France Insoumise, accusing it of failing to sufficiently denounce the 7 October attacks and term Hamas a terror group.


    The original article contains 667 words, the summary contains 220 words. Saved 67%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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            And this does not even get into the part where Israel itself is an antisemitic abomination:

            -Israel’s initial proposal/ conception was not out of some concern for the Jews but for antisemites to throw the Jewish population in a place where they don’t have to see them

            -Deliberately erasing the existence of Jews that lived in Palestine before their occupation in their rhetoric

            -During wwii Israel turned back Jews that had no settler inclination/ potential back to the German concentration camps

            -Committing atrocities while wearing the Star of David is designed to draw hatred to Jews as their scapegoat. It is not ‘the only safe place for Jews’, it is a perpetual warground that uses Jews as their human meatshields.

            -Their massive PR/ rainbowwashing/ anti-BDS laws is probably also designed to be easily misconstructed as the ‘Jews shadow-control the world’ antisemitic trope

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            I know you’re angry about injustice and indifference to injustice, and I am too, but I think it would be effective to take a less aggressive stance against people who are obviously blackout drunk on the Kool-Aid. It’s not productive to scare them off.

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          I’m on the side of the civilians, I don’t care what their ethnicity is.

          • The October attack happened last October, at the behest of a leadership that has not held an election since before half its subjects had even been born.

          • The genocide is ongoing, and is at the behest of a recently elected government supported by its democratic allies, so that’s the one where speaking out against it might help to stop it.