A conservative group that claimed to uncover a ballot stuffing scheme in Georgia has told a judge it has no evidence to back up its allegations.

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      What I love, though, is that they think they can waltz into a courtroom and say, “judge, we don’t have evidence to back this up…” and get away with it.

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        It’s because they know that whatever punishment the Court hands down, they can just go to the media and lie about being unjustly targeted because of their Conservative views, and fundraise off of it.

        Any punishment that the Court hands down is not punitive if there’s a ROI.

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    file court case

    provide no evidence

    what the fuck did they think they were gonna accomplish

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        You’re right. Sadly we live in a country where you can sue anyone for anything. Most people don’t know how the legal system works. These networks make a living exploiting that.

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      Confusion while Trump steals the election. Make a movie based on lies that’ll convince idiots that their version of reality is true.

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      There were a ridiculous number of court cases in 2020 brought by Trump fans about faking the election.

      Not a single one won in court.

      These people are fucking idiots.

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      Simple, it’s about the money “WERE FIGHTING FOR ELECTION INTEGRITY, DONATE TO STOP THE DEMON-CRAT STEAL”

      They might hope to win the case (making chud lawyers rich), but losing has its own appeal. The SovCit or conspiracy angle that ‘the swamp’ is covering for Biden, perpetuating their victimhood until the next election.m, is like moths to a flame

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    The logic of these people is flawless, I don’t understand why the judge can’t see that and needs evidence. /s

    They:

    • we would and some even have done shady stuff at the election
    • this means the other side has done it obviously too
    • someone has told someone else they are absolutely sure ballot stuffing happened, but we can’t remember who said it and who it was can’t remember they said it, but it definitely without a doubt was said and since we know we would have done it they have done it
    • don’t you see how it creates a perfect circle(jerk) - case closed
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    To be fair (and I’m being generous cause fuck these people), they might have believed lies from others who they thought they’d call as witnesses. A lot of people believed Trump’s lies. I could see people who wanted to believe putting themselves on the line in ways that were risky because they were so certain.

    But liars are pretty typical with maga fucks, so that’s also a fair assumption.

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      Wouldn’t the first step be to verify BEFORE filling with the courts?

      The groups might be complete morons but their lawyers should have at least verified the sources before taking it on

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        Wouldn’t the first step be to verify BEFORE filling with the courts?

        Yes… if you’re not a Trump voter who believed his election lie and are therefore not very smart.

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      You’re not wrong but it doesn’t change the overall situation. This in particular is the crux of the issue for me:

      A lot of people believed Trump’s lies.

      If you believed that Trump was a trustworthy individual by the time the 2020 election rolled around then you were, at best, stupid. To be clear, I don’t mean that as a juvenile insult or a way to dehumanize people I disagree with. What I mean is that, in the most generous interpretation of the situation, you were unaware of how often and about what subjects Trump refused to be truthful both before and during his presidency. In addition to this ignorance, you also held very strong opinions about subjects you clearly had no interest in educating yourself on, namely the fact that he’s so obviously full of shit. These opinions were strong enough that you were willing to overlook the historical anamoly of being impeached two separate times in order to vote for this man. Now, perhaps it is a bit incendiary to state it so bluntly, but I don’t know what else to call a categorical refusal to engage the rational part of your brain other than stupidity.

      Clearly there are Trump supporters who are stupid for reasons other than I’ve outlined here. My point is simply that the above scenario is about as open minded as you could reasonably be when evaluating the motivations of a Trump supporter and my conclusion is still that they are idiots. I think we’re well past the point where it’s necessary to make excuses for them.

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    Texas-based True the Vote filed complaints […] including one in which it said it had obtained “a detailed account of coordinated efforts to collect and deposit ballots in drop boxes across metro Atlanta” […] When pressed to provide names of sources and other documentation, the group last year tried to withdraw its complaint. [When that was denied] attorneys for True the Vote said the group had no names or other documentary evidence to share.

    So they fucking lied, tried to wriggle out of it when they were called out, and now they’ve admitted they have nothing? Fuckers need to be in prison, be permanently banned from anything to do with elections and politics, and have their own right to vote revoked.

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      I do not think they technically lied. People who believe into conspiracy theories usually require negative amount of evidence (I.e., they believe it despite of the evidence to the contrary). But this amount of evidence does not work for the courts. They are just nuts (yes, that’s a technical term).

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        So people who lie a lot make up idiotic justifications to believe their own lies. That doesn’t make them not-lies.

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        They claimed they had evidence. Even if it was bad ‘evidence’, they should have been able to produce it. I mean, you talk with a flat earther or a faked moon landing person or a vaccine is gonna kill you person, they’re gonna have all kinds of bullshit evidence to try to convince you. These guys couldn’t even come up with that.

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          What kind of evidence flat rather or vaccine denier would have other than “I heard that”? That would not be considered as evidence by any lawyer representing them.