Fallout 3 had a better atmosphere than vegas IMO. The ruins of the city, subways tunnels to travel, the absoulte warzone that was anywhere infested by the mutants. It really built up a world that was hostile and ruined. I wish FO3 had the same level of faction depth as FONV.
New Vegas feels far more like Fallout, and nailed the tone, though.
3 has more oppressive atmospheres, but the actual writing, story, and world building of New Vegas is a perfect evolution of 1 and 2.
I prefer 4 and 3 to NV ngl
Fallout 3 i can understand but Fallout 4 god no. Every great things in FNV were removed in Fallout 4
I have some opinions about 4, but nothing like the vitriol you feel towards it lol. Could I get an example of some things they removed in your opinion?
My complaints mostly boil down to how mediocre the story, world, and characters are. But I can’t think of anything they removed necessarily, just poorly implemented
They removed traits, a proper SPECIAL system, skills, proper skill checks, the reputation system, etc.
The complete oversimplification/destruction of dialogue trees still makes no sense to me.
You forgot weapons/outfits durability
Fallout 4 is good, but not as good as Fallout 3 and FNV
Why?
I love the atmosphere in 3, it was my introduction to Fallout. And with 4 I have just so much fun with the world, the characters and modding it.
FO3 has better world design but story-wise I prefer NV.
That’s fair, have you played around with modding New Vegas? The mod scene is incredible lately.
I have no Intention of modding NV tbh
Why not?
For anyone thinking about playing New Vegas again, check out Viva New Vegas! Fixes the gunplay, bugs, lighting, crashes, balance, and adds new important features like expanded consequences for your actions, cut content, a post-game where you can see the consequences of your choices, and better visuals!
Crazy that everybody had serious bug issues with FNV except me(i had more bug issues with fallout 4 than FNV)
I wish I didn’t notice them, but a lot of my play sessions end with the game hardlocked and having to kill it in task manager. Still doesn’t stop me from playing it regularly tho.
I’m a simple man. I see Fisto, I upvote Fisto.
Don’t forget about Fallout 1+2. They’re about as janky as Planescape: Torment, but still great games.
Don’t forget [two perfect masterpieces]. They’re about as janky as [another perfect masterpiece].
I… guess I agree?
I just played through 1 and 2 and they are far from perfect but they are damn good games
I remember losing Fallout 2 because one of the stat boosting items got lost from my inventory so I spent a month trying to track it down instead of saving my village.
Fuck them kids anyways.
To bad that even years after the release it was so bugged that i couldn’t play it through.
If you’re good with modding, just use NVAC and some other popular bug fix mods, then it’ll run better than any other fallout game. People love this game and have been fixing it for years.
Nowadays IMO the best way to play is to install
https://taleoftwowastelands.com/faq
https://thebestoftimes.moddinglinked.com/
That guide explains how to install. It includes the most important stability and QoL mods for modern systems, and brings the features of new Vegas (like aim down sights or hardcore mode) to fallout 3.
You can choose to play through fallout 3, and then through the story have that character become the new vegas courier, or start right in new Vegas like a standard save and travel to the capital wasteland if you’d like.
The Wasteland Survival Guide expands on TBoT and balances the games far better, adds in need content, tons more bug fixes, and generally improves on the games.
