Often people watch something like Dominion, get shocked, and decide to go vegan. It’s a purely emotional decision. Don’t expect any rational choices here.
Maybe “nightmare” is too subjective/emotional. But it’s undeniably unsustainable, inhumane, barbaric and outdated. We know better is the biggest issue. We don’t need to treat our food that way.
(P.S. I’m not vegan, I’m just full of cognitive dissonance lol)
Meat production is a prime contributor to climate change. Large amounts of resources go into raising meat. Further, cattle and pig production (not so much chicken) is the prime pathway to food contamination. Whenever you see lettuce recalls because of e. coli, that’s because animal shit got mixed in with the lettuce or the water for the lettuce.
Choosing not to eat meat because of these facts seems like a pretty rational choice, no emotion involved.
Oh boy, why are you arguing about things that you clearly don’t understand? “Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose.” Veganism doesn’t care about climate. People don’t go vegan to save climate. Some adopt a plant-based diet though, but these are separate bubbles that just barely intersect.
I think it’s great that you don’t eat meat, that’s a step many people refuse to take. If you have recognized the horror of the animal industry, then try to avoid udder milk as well. The dairy industry is the meat industry, they go hand in hand. Dairy cows are sold as food for humans and animals after they are no longer profitable, after just a few years. Don’t force a life of misery on dairy cows.
Hell yeah! Nobody should force their choices on any living animal. It’s very bad for a cat to force it on a vegan diet, and it’s very bad for a fish to force it to be cat food. Obviously the cat should only eat lab meat.
What learned professor? I watched 20 mins of the video and it was framed and delivered as propaganda. Also I blocked you, how the fuck are you showing up in my inbox?
Yeah, as much as I love cats, I know they would vote Republican if they could, just because they love the chaos and suffering that Republican leadership naturally brings.
Why do people even try to keep cats on vegan diet? It was your fucking choice, not the cats.
Im vegetarian, my cat eats meat. Im not gonna force anything on him unless he comes to me and tells me he wants to try it.
Often people watch something like Dominion, get shocked, and decide to go vegan. It’s a purely emotional decision. Don’t expect any rational choices here.
What would be the rational choice after watching it?
Ummm. It’s pretty rational to go vegan/vegetarian. Humans can be healthy and we are capable to decide for ourselves. Cats on the other hand…
What’s the rationality behind this?
Industrialised meat is a nightmare…?
How’s this rational? That’s an emotional evaluation. I’m not even arguing with that. But that’s not the point of the discussion.
Maybe “nightmare” is too subjective/emotional. But it’s undeniably unsustainable, inhumane, barbaric and outdated. We know better is the biggest issue. We don’t need to treat our food that way.
(P.S. I’m not vegan, I’m just full of cognitive dissonance lol)
That’s never been the point of this discussion, stop flaming. That’s just toxic.
I’m flaming? Sorry, just was trying to point out that becoming vegan can be more than just an emotional choice.
Meat production is a prime contributor to climate change. Large amounts of resources go into raising meat. Further, cattle and pig production (not so much chicken) is the prime pathway to food contamination. Whenever you see lettuce recalls because of e. coli, that’s because animal shit got mixed in with the lettuce or the water for the lettuce.
Choosing not to eat meat because of these facts seems like a pretty rational choice, no emotion involved.
Oh boy, why are you arguing about things that you clearly don’t understand? “Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose.” Veganism doesn’t care about climate. People don’t go vegan to save climate. Some adopt a plant-based diet though, but these are separate bubbles that just barely intersect.
Got it, so you are emotionally defining veganism in such a way that you aren’t actually vegan if you don’t get there for emotional reasons.
If that’s your definition of veganism then of course nobody can get there with reason. You’ve created a tautology with your emotion filled definition.
For the record, veganism is defined by MW as
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vegan
That was the definition I was operating under. Sorry I didn’t Intuit your arbitrary definition you pulled from “eat meat.com” or whatever you got it.
I think it’s great that you don’t eat meat, that’s a step many people refuse to take. If you have recognized the horror of the animal industry, then try to avoid udder milk as well. The dairy industry is the meat industry, they go hand in hand. Dairy cows are sold as food for humans and animals after they are no longer profitable, after just a few years. Don’t force a life of misery on dairy cows.
Don’t downvote this guy, he is right.
One meow for meat, two for vegan
Hell yeah! Nobody should force their choices on any living animal. It’s very bad for a cat to force it on a vegan diet, and it’s very bad for a fish to force it to be cat food. Obviously the cat should only eat lab meat.
You shouldn’t own a cat if you are unwilling to take care of it. Get something else like a bunny or hamster.
if the cat enjoys the vegan food and it is nutritious then there is really not an issue.
obviously you can’t stop a cat killing things.
This guy has done studies into the very thing:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YxjGa0MXfAc
You NEVER fucking learn do you?
cats CANNOT survive on a vegan diet, they will go blind and die years earlier.
So fucking tired of wikipedia scholars liking some fucking rando on youtube to justify their ideological animal abuse.
wait, are you suggesting the learned professor in the video above is a Wikipedia scholar?
What learned professor? I watched 20 mins of the video and it was framed and delivered as propaganda. Also I blocked you, how the fuck are you showing up in my inbox?
the guy in the video is a professor. is that not learned enough for you?
You left your SI in the link
Thanks. first I have ever heard of that. changed it. not sure why.
I also feel the same way about making cats Democrat supporters
Yeah, as much as I love cats, I know they would vote Republican if they could, just because they love the chaos and suffering that Republican leadership naturally brings.