Perhaps I should rephrase. They attack Mozilla (and users of Firefox) infinitely more than Google (and users of various Google products). I heard it said after Mozilla introduced their opt-out privacy-respecting ad tracking that users should “move to a more privacy-friendly browser like Google Chrome”.
This is true of Lemmy’s political stance in general. Tell them you’re a leftist but not vegan? They’ll call you a murderer. Tell them you’re a leftist but not an anarcho-communist? Yeah I’ll bet you love capitalism and the human suffering it causes, you Chauvinist pig! Tell them you’re a liberal? You’re practically a Nazi collaborator! (All things I have actually heard Lemmings say.) But tell them you’re a conservative and they leave you alone.
I’ve never seen self-proclaimed leftists hurl more vitriol than when an openly-socialist labor organizer in my union said they were for freedom of speech (for humans) and generally supportive of firearm ownership. Absolutely wild reaction.
But don’t you understand? Any language or policy the right adopts, we must abandon, even if, on its face (if not in the right wing implementation of it), it’s something we agree with. Otherwise how will we identify and shun right wingers? They could be hiding anywhere, you know.
fine, then i guess i’m not a leftist. personally i prefer talking to people who have thought their ideas for what the future of society should look like all the way through before sending threats of losing literally all of their friends to people who don’t believe in it.
oh for fuck’s sake throw the whole fediverse away. yall are brain dead.
What happens when vigilantes nail the wrong guy due to mistaken identity or misunderstanding? What happens when they start going after people who might commit crimes? Why do you think letting people appoint themselves judge, jury, and executioner whenever they feel like it is a good idea?
When the communist utopia comes to pass, I for one don’t want to constantly be watching my back in case I happen to have similar looks or speech patterns (or tastes in media!) to somebody who raped somebody else. That kind of goes against the whole all-in-this-together part of communism.
Snidely paraphrased: Snitching to cops is nazi collaboration, but vigilante-ism is cool and works. The state is bad, except when I’m the state. I wanna be the boot and the hero
Last I checked, people who voted for Kamala Harris but remained friends with people who didn’t weren’t going out at night to tell the secret police where some filthy Jews live.
That’s a completely meaningless claim, but suppose I take it at face value. What would it mean for a middle class citizen to “collaborate” with the department of defense or a fortune 500 company?
If you say “buying from them” in the case of the latter, I hope you don’t buy anything from either Walmart or Amazon, at all, ever, and use a totally deGoogled Android phone and a secondhand librebooted Thinkpad as your only computing devices.
does your definition of the word “Nazi” now include any and all snitches? telling people off for stealing groceries might be immoral but it’s not the same as murdering millions of people because their nose is the wrong shape.
Perhaps I should rephrase. They attack Mozilla (and users of Firefox) infinitely more than Google (and users of various Google products). I heard it said after Mozilla introduced their opt-out privacy-respecting ad tracking that users should “move to a more privacy-friendly browser like Google Chrome”.
This is true of Lemmy’s political stance in general. Tell them you’re a leftist but not vegan? They’ll call you a murderer. Tell them you’re a leftist but not an anarcho-communist? Yeah I’ll bet you love capitalism and the human suffering it causes, you Chauvinist pig! Tell them you’re a liberal? You’re practically a Nazi collaborator! (All things I have actually heard Lemmings say.) But tell them you’re a conservative and they leave you alone.
I’ve never seen self-proclaimed leftists hurl more vitriol than when an openly-socialist labor organizer in my union said they were for freedom of speech (for humans) and generally supportive of firearm ownership. Absolutely wild reaction.
“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary”
But don’t you understand? Any language or policy the right adopts, we must abandon, even if, on its face (if not in the right wing implementation of it), it’s something we agree with. Otherwise how will we identify and shun right wingers? They could be hiding anywhere, you know.
what do you think leftist means?
In past when I have expressed this view I have been helpfully informed that I love human suffering
this is not an answer. if you don’t want to abolish capital and the state, you aren’t a leftist.
fine, then i guess i’m not a leftist. personally i prefer talking to people who have thought their ideas for what the future of society should look like all the way through before sending threats of losing literally all of their friends to people who don’t believe in it.
… vigilantism works though.
oh for fuck’s sake throw the whole fediverse away. yall are brain dead.
What happens when vigilantes nail the wrong guy due to mistaken identity or misunderstanding? What happens when they start going after people who might commit crimes? Why do you think letting people appoint themselves judge, jury, and executioner whenever they feel like it is a good idea?
When the communist utopia comes to pass, I for one don’t want to constantly be watching my back in case I happen to have similar looks or speech patterns (or tastes in media!) to somebody who raped somebody else. That kind of goes against the whole all-in-this-together part of communism.
Snidely paraphrased: Snitching to cops is nazi collaboration, but vigilante-ism is cool and works. The state is bad, except when I’m the state. I wanna be the boot and the hero
Ah, but you see, snitching to cops is bad because they serve corrupt power structures, and those definitely won’t exist under communism.
where is the lie?
Last I checked, people who voted for Kamala Harris but remained friends with people who didn’t weren’t going out at night to tell the secret police where some filthy Jews live.
first, i don’t believe you ever checked. second, i don’t think that’s literally what’s happening anyweher in the us, so you’re tilting at windmills.
No, it’s what Nazi collaborators were doing. Since apparently liberals are that. That was what we were talking about, right?
modern fascists are wallstreet and the pentagon. collaboration looks different 100 years later.
Oh my god.
That’s a completely meaningless claim, but suppose I take it at face value. What would it mean for a middle class citizen to “collaborate” with the department of defense or a fortune 500 company?
If you say “buying from them” in the case of the latter, I hope you don’t buy anything from either Walmart or Amazon, at all, ever, and use a totally deGoogled Android phone and a secondhand librebooted Thinkpad as your only computing devices.
calling the cops when you spot a shoplifter would be a good example
does your definition of the word “Nazi” now include any and all snitches? telling people off for stealing groceries might be immoral but it’s not the same as murdering millions of people because their nose is the wrong shape.