Linus Torvalds Speaks on the the divide between Rust and C Linux developers an the future Linux. Will things like fragmentation among the open source community hurt the Linux Kernel? We’ll listen to the Creator of Linux.

For the full key note, checkout: Keynote: Linus Torvalds in Conversation with Dirk Hohndel

  • @ProgrammingSocks
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    1519 hours ago

    Rust is harder to write but infinitely safer, and equivalent in speed.

    • Kairos
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      1518 hours ago

      It’s harder to write because it forces you to be careful.

      • Fonzie!
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        211 hours ago

        And because it looks like C, JavaScript, Bash and a few others all mixed up together.

        I’ve heard Rust described as “Rust is what you get when you put all the good features of other programming languages together. You can’t read it, but it’s freaking fast!”

      • @atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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        1317 hours ago

        It forces you to be careful in the way it wants you to be careful. Which is fine, but it makes it a strange beastie for anyone not used to it.

            • Kairos
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              13 hours ago

              I feel like a garbage collector would be too much a performance hit for kernel stuff.

              • @InverseParallax@lemmy.world
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                27 hours ago

                2 things:

                1. It’s more the determinacy, a GC randomly fires up and your systems stops for some long amount of time. There are pauseless GCs but that’s a different nightmare.

                2. The kernel has things similar to GCs. They’re used for more specialized tasks, and some (like rcu) are absolute nightmares that have take decades to get working.

      • @PushButton@lemmy.world
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        015 hours ago

        it’s more “it forces you to make it burrow checker friendly”.

        A burrow checker is not the only mechanism to write safe code. All the mess of Rust is all because this is the strategy they adopted.

        And this strategy, like everything in this world, has trade offs. It just happens that there are a lot, like, - a lot -, of trade offs, and those are insufferable when it comes to Rust…

          • qaz
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            114 minutes ago

            Gotta watch out for those rabbits messing with your kernel