Not getting into this argument because I personally don’t give a shit about the whole situation, but that isn’t really how FOSS works.
The software itself is free, the servers themselves are a service however. That is not free, it may be free to US, but somebody is footing the bill.
That being said, if the sync developer is developing an app for a platform that itself does not use ads and relies solely on donation, ethically speaking he should at least donate some of the profit to the Lemmy devs (even if just 1%), considering that the app DOES rely on their software and they themselves are not seeing any of those funds whatsoever. I have no problem with donations whatsoever, but keep in mind that it isn’t like sync is the greatest creation ever made and is totally self reliant, it 100% depends on Lemmy itself to function.
Whether he does or not doesn’t matter to me because jerboa works perfectly fine for me, but that is just my .02. People are really getting way too fucking heated about this shit and seeing it start to infect spaces like shitpost is honestly turning me off to Lemmy.
People are treating the app like the second coming of Christ FFS.
Correct, the use of the service at the moment is free the fee l third party creators are charging for their service in development of that particular interface. They’re free to do that.
Who says he doesn’t? You legit don’t know what deal they may or may not have, stop assuming.
Bro it’s shit post… What standards are you holding it to here lol.
No people are overdueing a joke as always on shit post and as usual people hop in and get way too serious about throwaway jokes.
If he is donating, then he should tell people that he is donating. The whole idea of “if you tell people of your goodwill then you undid your goodwill” is stupid. Yes, you shouldn’t do something good with the expectation of a reward, but that’s different when you are selling a product.
It’s not even just about goodwill, it is also about longevity of the platform.
However, considering the facts that he is running ads and charging for ad-free access, I doubt he is donating by default unless he specifically mentions it.
Also, I’m not holding any standard here, it’s just that like, shitpost is for actual shitposts. This isn’t a shitpost, it’s just starting another argument. It’s like the porn spam in /b/, there are other boards for that.
It’s also not just here, I’m seeing boards everywhere popping up with this argument. It is getting old.
Yes, it’s not my business, I’ve stated that I don’t care about this argument several times. I simply gave my .02. If you are profiting off of a FOSS project, you should atleast feel obligated to donate some of that money to the devs.
Why can’t you disclose donations (didn’t say anything about charity)? The entire point of charity isn’t supposed to “make you feel good” or make you seem better in the eyes of people, it is to support a project or cause at the end of the day, those are just side effects of donating.
Your statement on open source software is not really how it works. Yes, a dev could leave today, A dev. You think Lemmy was made by a single dev? And even then, like you said it is OPEN SOURCE. Somebody will fork it, and they will be the new person that you can support. You should absolutely support your favorite FOSS devs because they essentially work a second job for free. Yes, pay doesn’t create production, but it DOES create incentive to keep working on a project, potentially full time if enough come in. You know, like what the sync dev is doing?
If you can’t understand this, then I can’t understand your logic behind supporting sync.
crybabys throwing tantrums over jokes
Lol, what’s the joke here? Doesn’t seem like a joke to me. And you’re right, it IS a SHIT post, but this is a sub for shitposts. There is a difference you know.
go somewhere else dude, complaining yadayadayada
And which community exactly? The Sync community or the Lemmy community? All I said is that I’m fucking tired of seeing this stupid debate brought up everywhere (as I said, EVERYWHERE) by sync fanboys and sync haters. Those people are not the community, it’s LEMMY, not SYNC. There are communities specifically for this, go bitch and moan on those specific communities instead of infecting everything else with this ridiculous debate.
Literally all I’m saying is that the sync dev is going to be making a pretty decent chunk of change for essentially making a Lemmy front end that works on your phone. I don’t understand how you can think that “it’s okay to pay to remove ads and tracking” to support the dev but not think the same for the Lemmy devs. They literally fall flat on each other, if you believe that the sync dev shouldn’t at his own will donate a miniscule amount of money to the project, that logic could be applied to the app itself? Why wouldn’t you just use another app? Why would you use an app that includes ads and trackers unless you paid to remove them, over one that does the exact same thing for free?
People are getting way too heated over this. It is an app for fucks sake. If you are seriously this fanatical about a single app, you are terminally online and need to go outside. Even the 3rd party app debacle on reddit was less radical than this. I cannot even begin to understand the reasoning behind moving to Lemmy just to spend all of your time talking about an app, that you would normally use to talk about other things.
I’d say I’m still a fanatical arch (more Linux in general) user but I’ve learned to tone it down when it comes to trying to convert other people to using it.
I’ve found the “sowing the seeds” approach to be better to converting people to the Linux master race.
Not getting into this argument because I personally don’t give a shit about the whole situation, but that isn’t really how FOSS works.
The software itself is free, the servers themselves are a service however. That is not free, it may be free to US, but somebody is footing the bill.
That being said, if the sync developer is developing an app for a platform that itself does not use ads and relies solely on donation, ethically speaking he should at least donate some of the profit to the Lemmy devs (even if just 1%), considering that the app DOES rely on their software and they themselves are not seeing any of those funds whatsoever. I have no problem with donations whatsoever, but keep in mind that it isn’t like sync is the greatest creation ever made and is totally self reliant, it 100% depends on Lemmy itself to function.
Whether he does or not doesn’t matter to me because jerboa works perfectly fine for me, but that is just my .02. People are really getting way too fucking heated about this shit and seeing it start to infect spaces like shitpost is honestly turning me off to Lemmy.
People are treating the app like the second coming of Christ FFS.
It is.
Correct, the use of the service at the moment is free the fee l third party creators are charging for their service in development of that particular interface. They’re free to do that.
Who says he doesn’t? You legit don’t know what deal they may or may not have, stop assuming.
Bro it’s shit post… What standards are you holding it to here lol.
No people are overdueing a joke as always on shit post and as usual people hop in and get way too serious about throwaway jokes.
If he is donating, then he should tell people that he is donating. The whole idea of “if you tell people of your goodwill then you undid your goodwill” is stupid. Yes, you shouldn’t do something good with the expectation of a reward, but that’s different when you are selling a product.
It’s not even just about goodwill, it is also about longevity of the platform.
However, considering the facts that he is running ads and charging for ad-free access, I doubt he is donating by default unless he specifically mentions it.
Also, I’m not holding any standard here, it’s just that like, shitpost is for actual shitposts. This isn’t a shitpost, it’s just starting another argument. It’s like the porn spam in /b/, there are other boards for that.
It’s also not just here, I’m seeing boards everywhere popping up with this argument. It is getting old.
Why? What business is it to you and you’re not supposed to disclose charitable donation anyhow, it’s not to get credit.
It’s open source, you could pay a dev today and they could leave today, pay doesn’t create production or lemmy wouldn’t exist in the first place.
Why? Because you wouldn’t?
It is a shit post moreso when crybaby’s go throwing tantrums over jokes, if you don’t like it ignore it and move on like a grown adult.
Then go somewhere else dude, you’re complaining about the community at this point not the content.
Yes, it’s not my business, I’ve stated that I don’t care about this argument several times. I simply gave my .02. If you are profiting off of a FOSS project, you should atleast feel obligated to donate some of that money to the devs.
Why can’t you disclose donations (didn’t say anything about charity)? The entire point of charity isn’t supposed to “make you feel good” or make you seem better in the eyes of people, it is to support a project or cause at the end of the day, those are just side effects of donating.
Your statement on open source software is not really how it works. Yes, a dev could leave today, A dev. You think Lemmy was made by a single dev? And even then, like you said it is OPEN SOURCE. Somebody will fork it, and they will be the new person that you can support. You should absolutely support your favorite FOSS devs because they essentially work a second job for free. Yes, pay doesn’t create production, but it DOES create incentive to keep working on a project, potentially full time if enough come in. You know, like what the sync dev is doing?
If you can’t understand this, then I can’t understand your logic behind supporting sync.
Lol, what’s the joke here? Doesn’t seem like a joke to me. And you’re right, it IS a SHIT post, but this is a sub for shitposts. There is a difference you know.
And which community exactly? The Sync community or the Lemmy community? All I said is that I’m fucking tired of seeing this stupid debate brought up everywhere (as I said, EVERYWHERE) by sync fanboys and sync haters. Those people are not the community, it’s LEMMY, not SYNC. There are communities specifically for this, go bitch and moan on those specific communities instead of infecting everything else with this ridiculous debate.
Literally all I’m saying is that the sync dev is going to be making a pretty decent chunk of change for essentially making a Lemmy front end that works on your phone. I don’t understand how you can think that “it’s okay to pay to remove ads and tracking” to support the dev but not think the same for the Lemmy devs. They literally fall flat on each other, if you believe that the sync dev shouldn’t at his own will donate a miniscule amount of money to the project, that logic could be applied to the app itself? Why wouldn’t you just use another app? Why would you use an app that includes ads and trackers unless you paid to remove them, over one that does the exact same thing for free?
People are getting way too heated over this. It is an app for fucks sake. If you are seriously this fanatical about a single app, you are terminally online and need to go outside. Even the 3rd party app debacle on reddit was less radical than this. I cannot even begin to understand the reasoning behind moving to Lemmy just to spend all of your time talking about an app, that you would normally use to talk about other things.
I mean… I personally do consider it the second coming of Christ 🤷
More fanatical than arch users, that’s coming from one himself.
What if you’re both a fanatical sync user and an arch user?
Because that’s me 🙋
I’d say I’m still a fanatical arch (more Linux in general) user but I’ve learned to tone it down when it comes to trying to convert other people to using it.
I’ve found the “sowing the seeds” approach to be better to converting people to the Linux master race.