• Lexi Sneptaur
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    22 hours ago

    This response is one of the most well thought out, compassionate and intelligent replies I’ve had in this type of back-and-forth online in many years. I’m seriously impressed and I absolutely cannot be angry after reading that.

    In general, I get it. I am not fighting against the way you are using anger and hate here. After all, hate and love are intrinsically linked. We can’t have one without the other. I do hate billionaires. I do hate corrupt politicians. I am only cautioning against wishing harm on people like so many are doing in this thread (and in many other corners of the Internet). In a reply to someone else earlier, I mentioned that the county most affected by this is primarily black and voted overwhelmingly for Harris in 2024 - about 32/68 for Harris. That is why I push back in the way that I did. I wasn’t very articulate because I was looking for a debate and I didn’t want to write a whole page as a top-level reply.

    It’s not going to be easy for us. It’ll take a very long time. I just… I have this deep unrelenting pragmatic optimism in my heart; I believe most people generally want what’s best for everyone. People caught up in identity politics, hate campaigns, whatever – that’s just someone who’s lost their way and is caught up in a distraction. Social media amplifies these patterns often, as does the news media. It’s painful to watch, and it feels like so many people are caught up in hate, always looking for a victory over a perceived enemy rather than looking for a better world for everyone.

    One of the things that radicalized me was hearing a socialist online say (while arguing with a republican or something), “I want universal healthcare not just for me and my loved ones, but for you and yours too. Can’t you see that?”

    I’m sure I’ll see you around this network again. Keep being excellent, and thank you.

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      15 hours ago

      While this may not have been clear from my initial response my deepest sympathies are to those who are affected that did not want this. Though I won’t apologize for cheering the supporters of it getting what they asked for.

      I’m a cynic at heart I believe there are good people, plenty of them and those are the people I will always fight for. But our society is sick, this division, selfishness and hatred isn’t new, it’s been the status quo for atleast decades. We have valued success over morality, unity over justice, and self over community. It’s just that now it feels we’re reaching or have reached a point that the fundamental values we hold and hopes for the future are diametrically opposed or perhaps we’re just better aware of it.

      For all of our sakes though, I hope your optimism is right. Speaking to people like you who believe and stand by their convictions and fight for justice, gives me hope. Because I know even if we disagree on finer details that we both believe that things can be better and will fight to make it happen.

      Stay safe, and stay excellent Sneptaur.