A Palestinian man who was detained by Israeli forces in occupied East Jerusalem said he has been physically abused after officers brutally beat him and branded the Star of David on his cheek, according to Israeli media reports.
A Palestinian man who was detained by Israeli forces in occupied East Jerusalem said he has been physically abused after officers brutally beat him and branded the Star of David on his cheek, according to Israeli media reports.
And the world is supporting Israel because? It’s okay because they are Jews and if you say anything contrary you are an anti-semite and or a Nazi?
Speaking of Nazi, the nazis did the exact fucking thing to the jews. Boy how the turn tables
If anyone wrote a fictional story like this, people would call it over the top, silly, far-fetched… reality is fucking dummer than fiction I guess. Not to excuse evil, this is evil, not dumbness.
Quote that stuck from a history class I took years ago:
Also reminds me of this post, which kinda puts into perspective just how fucking weird a lot of history was as it was unfolding. Studying it after the fact we can get a sense of “oh that must have been shocking” but we don’t really get a sense of the absolute “…what the actual fuck…?!” going through the heads of the people at that time:
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d5a5669e-462a-49a8-9911-fd6cf172a39e.png
Makes me wonder if the batshit insanity of the circumstances of Trump’s presidency will actually be captured by history, or if it will just get boiled down to “…the US then elected a talkshow host famous for his orange face. It went poorly; and the next president was…”
I mean yeah that’s true. Reality doesn’t have to make sense. It exists and that’s it.
I would love to see history books 100 years from now, how people would handle all the craziness in the world…
Israel is made of Israelis. Israel != Jews.
Yeah, my bad to paint all Isrealis to be all of the jewish faith.
Correct. Also Israel has to exist for the Christian end time prophecy to be true.
Because historically, it was a disaster for Jews to not have their own nation, but be a (n often persecuted) minority in other countries.
Or it still is to this day, but now they have at least one more or less safe retreat on Earth. Yes, many other peoples still don’t have that.
No! Police violence and abuse are NOT okay. Saying this as an atheist, anti-religious, anti-fascist from Germany.
We can and should condemn the atrocious misbehavior of the police, while still supporting the right of the Israeli nation to exist, which is tied to the basic human right of Jewish people to live.
Sure we should condemn the misbehavior of the police which is part of the state (executive), right? So we should condemn the misbehavior of the the isreal state, right?
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Yes its great what-aboutism you show. We are talking here about Isreal and the treatment of Palestinians who were there before the isrealites arrived on that land. And they are genociding them just like we (Nazi-Germany) did to them before. But we can’t condemn them for what they are doing now since they were victims of them before.
This isn’t about some cops doing some abhorrent shit to some people. This is about the continuation of the abhorrent crimes Isreal commit against Palestine!
This is an extremely wrong take. There are truly horrendous crimes happening in this conflict but it is not even close compared to what the nazis did in WW2. “Oversimplifications” like these are just relativizing the holocaust, nothing more.
Okay yeah you are right. Its not as concentrated as Nazi Germany did. Just more slowly.
You completely missed my point here. By making these comparisons you don’t show how cruel the current event is, you just relativize the holocaust itself.
Also where would you draw the line? Is the USA performing a holocaust on mexicans? I mean ICE separated kids from their families and locked them up somewhere near the border, “it’s almost like a nazi concentration camp”. While we’re in the US: black communities living in ghettos while being regularly mistreated by police and others? “Sounds like the Warsaw ghetto to me.” And what about LGBTQ people being persecuted, abused and killed by lynchmobs in muslim countries? “That’s basically Kristallnacht!”
Do you see what i did there? Are the things i mentioned cruel, awful and just wrong? Yes, of course. Are they somehow comparable to the darkest point in human history where murder on jews and other minorities was industrialized? Absolutely not.
Are all those things targetted to harm (mildly put) people of certain flock on the large scale? Yes absolutely. Also it was you who put the Holocaust onto the table, not me.
The Holocaust began with bullets and conquest of the East. It wasn’t all ovens.
The holocaust began even before the war but you completely missed my point here. By making these comparisons you don’t show how cruel the current event is, you just relativize the holocaust itself.
Also where would you draw the line? Is the USA performing a holocaust on mexicans? I mean ICE separated kids from their families and locked them up somewhere near the border, “it’s almost like a nazi concentration camp”. While we’re in the US: black communities living in ghettos while being regularly mistreated by police and others? “Sounds like the Warsaw ghetto to me.” And what about LGBTQ people being persecuted, abused and killed by lynchmobs in muslim countries? “That’s basically Kristallnacht!”
Do you see what i did there? Are the things i mentioned cruel, awful and just wrong? Yes, of course. Are they somehow comparable to the darkest point in human history where murder on jews and other minorities was industrialized? Absolutely not.
It’s because they’re white.
Nah bro
The majority of Jews in Israel came from Europe - more than from Africa and Asia combined. They’re white settlers.
Coming from Europe doesn’t make someone white.
Okay, so being from Europe and having white skin doesn’t necessarily make them white.
Colonizing a non-white region and genociding the local population does, though.
There is a reason that white supremacists, even non religious ones, love Israel.
The fuck are you on. White supremacists hate Jews.
They sure fucking love Israel though, because the settlers love to lynch Arabs and Africans
What could be more white than stealing land from the non-white people already living there? Old school white supremacists hated Italians and Irish too, but this isn’t the 1940s.
Most of ADLs database of hate is centered around white supremacism.
ADL exists to protect Jews.
Why would an organization centered around protecting Jews focus so much negative attention on white supremacists if white supremacists love Jews and Israel?
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