• @Strae@lemmy.world
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    1510 months ago

    This is slightly extreme. Go tell Europeans in the late 30s and early 40s that there’s no justification for going to war against Germany. There are always exceptions.

    • @gens@programming.dev
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      1910 months ago

      We didn’t go to germany, germany came to us.

      Just like usa did many times.

      And i don’t think it was so obvious at the time. Russia was massing weapons, middle east had problems, and tensions were everywhere.

      • @Strae@lemmy.world
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        810 months ago

        You’re being obtuse about the definition of “go to war”. If they invade your country and you fight back you’re still going to war.

        • @gens@programming.dev
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          1010 months ago

          Fair enough. But in the context of usa it never had a defensive war, always the agressor. And the propaganda was “they have bio weapons of mass destruction and will use them”, and later “they terrorists”. None of which was true. Iran was far from innocent either.

    • @kava@lemmy.world
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      710 months ago

      Ok I concede there are exceptions but I think even in justified war the government is full of shit. The propaganda gets pumped out in full force during military actions.