• JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
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      Do we have a way to combine feeds yet? I don’t know of one. So it’s kinda annoying to jump from account to account to make sure your seeing everything.

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          I definitely can block inetances, I did with one click. Maybe it’s the app I use? (Connect)

          I still see comments from it’s users but they’re behind a (comment from blocked instance) button.

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            I believe it’s a per-app feature. After switching over to Eternity (Infinity for Lemmy) I had to do my Blocklist again. Also each app handles blocked instances differently, and I think connect does it the best with how it still shows the comments, but not posts.

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            Sync lets you block entire instances, and that includes the comments.

            It’s a cool self federation

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            I don’t see the blocked comments or posts with the Eternity app.

            …But I also can’t make my own posts yet…

            Edit: wait… Not sure if it still shows comments from people on instances I’ve blocked.

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          The “block instance” feature is apparently in the pipeline for Lemmy.

          Kbin currently allows you to block entire instances, so that’s nice.

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        Yes, actually! Liftoff for Lemmy is still in early development, but you can get it on iOS, Android, Windows, and Linux, and it provides precisely this feature. There are a lot of features that Liftoff is yet to incorporate, probably most notably moderator tools and support for adding Kbin accounts – but give it a try regardless, and do what you can to contribute to its further development. Liftoff is an app with a lot of promise and a surprising amount of functionality already this early in its development.

        It’s worth noting that Liftoff is a fork of the now abandoned project Lemmur, which I believe was the first Lemmy client to support combining feeds.

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        I’m building this into an app right now, I’ve got an android beta open if you’re interested in helping decide the course of it.

        Right now it just does the normal stuff with some extra features and lots of filters, but the goal has always been to build custom feeds on your device from a lot of individual sources. I’m redesigning stuff under the hood with that and support for other fediverse integration, I’m looking at kbin and mastodon in the near term, but I think I want pixelfed and maybe friendica down the road

        The name is Luna, let me know if you want a link

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        Sure, but keep in mind the comparison to any non-federated site has to be that you had no other instances to jump to in the first place.

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      Social media needs to be as easy as possible if you’re going to reach the masses. Most people do not give a shit enough to create 3 accounts; they’ll just leave.

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          But quantity and quality are linked. If only, say, 0.1% of people will post high quality content, that means you need to attract a thousand people to get a high quality poster. You can’t just put up a sign that says “high quality posters only”. Plenty of quality posters also want an audience, so they’ll go where the people are and leave if that audience isn’t there.

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            This. I love reddit r/askhistorians and r/askphilosophy. But the vast fkn majority of people are not qualified to answer historical or philosophical questions. In these cases you need a lot of people on the site.

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              So circling back then, if the high quality posters leave here, sure you’ll leave with them and you’ll be fine, but it still hurts the fediverse if they leave.

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          Cutting out huge swaths of users at once just stifles the content including the small percentage of actually quality content. You can’t pick out and keep the good stuff when you cut off whole instances. It also brings down the engagement in your own content.

          Take your favorite small forum and now split it according to political opinion, now split it again according to if users pirate movies(lol). Your forum is now dead since no one likes speaking into the void.

          We should be treasuring the connections, not putting up walls because it makes the circle jerk easier.

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          Funny enough, Hexbear actually defederated from my main instance first, due to it not being inclusive enough for their standards. My own experiences with Hexbear as an autistic enby are that Hexbear is actually the most inclusive Lemmy instance out there, by no small margin. The issue with Hexbear is that its users like to “punch up” at non-leftists, pointing out how people propagate or benefit from exploitative systems, and justify these systems to themselves.

          Being “dunked on” may annoy and wound the pride of non-leftists, but this is also very much not the same as the actually evil Nazi shit posted to EH, which “punches down”. I have for many years understood the difference between being annoyed and having my pride wounded for having a bad opinion, and being actively terrorized and marginalized for being a member of a marginalized group. The world would be better off if more people understood that difference.

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              Hexbear at least has a no-tolerance policy for open slurs, as far as I’m aware. But you’re saying with regard to /r/CTH, that it wasn’t, like, people reclaiming slurs, or using “slurs” for non-marginalized groups – that it was actual, proper, undeniably hurtful slurring you saw? And by the way, what is a “dirtbag leftist”, anyway?

              I can definitely understand being put off by the way that the Hexbears often talk. I have managed to have a lot of constructive conversations with the Hexbears, where they honestly just write normally and almost unfairly politely for my asininity; but when the Hexbears aren’t in Serious Mode, which is most of the time, then their comments just look like cryptic emojis and weird slang, right? And I think that’s appealing for a certain type of person, but not for others. I don’t think it’s necessarily bad to be childish or flippant, so it doesn’t bother me.

              Whether the Hexbear culture is toxic is a different question. I can feel comfortable asking silly questions there or expressing sides of my identity that I might hide in other spaces, but there are also parts of the Hexbear culture that I like less and wish would change. Foremost that they could use a reminder of Hanlon’s razor sometimes.

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                  What’s this about people disliking Tumblr due to slurs…? I haven’t heard about people particularly disliking Tumblr for any reason, much less usage of slurs. And I don’t know what FWR and AHS are, either. The second seems to be American Horror Story, but I’m not familiar with that.

                  I don’t particularly like 196, either. It was the mod endorsement of an ableist slur on 196 that was sort of the impetus for Hexbear defederating from Blåhaj, actually. So I’ve always wished that 196 would just move to its own instance instead of being basically this parasite on the rest of Blåhaj Lemmy where prejudices are allowed to flourish.

                  It’s only just now occurring to me that when you talk about slurs you might be referring more specifically to a word that alliterates “quest” and rhymes “near”, and maybe also a word that alliterates “bid” and rhymes “switch”. Are those the words you’re thinking of? The first in particular would be a word that an older gay person from a conservative region would probably have a traumatic past with, but that younger people in spaces like Blåhaj Lemmy or Hexbear or Tumblr would use without having that trauma. I could understand taking issue with that if that is your trauma, because that is something that people should be more respectful and aware of, and that younger LGBT+ people in particular could do better about.

                  I’m sorry to have touched a sore spot.

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      Too many people never used forums and think every site needs to talk to every site.

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        Forums died for a reason. Reddit took over that space for me because it was one place to see everything. Federation is a better version of that. Decentralized and connected is how the Internet should be

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          Reddit took over because threading on forums was awful. The centralization was just a nice bonus imo.

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            I added the ‘for me’ to curb the pedants, but it seems you still found your way. Your experience doesn’t invalidate mine, sorry.

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              Sorry I missed that. My bad. Fwiw I agree. I like having all my gaming subs grouped together.

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      I don’t get it either. Defederation is a tool just like banning or spam prevention. If it’s unused it’s pointless to have.

      But you don’t ban everyone for a single offense just like to don’t defederate lightly. If you do then people will move elsewhere and the problem resolves itself

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      I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: If instances weren’t supposed to be ever defederate, then we wouldn’t have the tool. In the absence of real moderation/admin tools it’s going to get used more frequently. And that’s the admin owner’s right!

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      I would say that a big part of the issue is the difficulty in transferring one’s account. Ignoring the fact that one simply can’t transfer their posts, trying to manually copy all previously subscribed communities to a new account is a rather tedious task. I am aware that there exists scripts that can automate that process, but I don’t think that it’s fair to expect that the userbase should run 3rd party scripts. Until account transfer is properly implemented, defederation will continue to be a major issue.

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        The migration must be perfect, which means posts, comments and up/downvotes from the source instance must appear as if they’ve always been on the target instance.

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      I think the best part of the fed is that you can see ALL the content from the other instances. I personally feel like its what the internet is supposed to be.

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      I just use one, but AFAICT they don’t defederate, they haven’t even defederated anyone on their mastodon instance and that’s had a lot longer to have all manner of inter-instance bullshit develop.