Everything you need to know about the ‘one million march for children’ to stop the ‘indoctrination of children in public schools’

  • spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Idgaf what you think. You’re of the opinion that people who can’t even agree that certain members of our society are human and deserve basic rights should be sat down with and talked to?

    I have no time for their nonsense and no time for yours.

    Look up the tolerance paradox and think hard about that.

    • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      I have no time for their nonsense and no time for yours.

      One person’s nonsense is another person’s importance.

      None of these people on either side are going to just magically disappear because the other side doesn’t like them.

      If you want them to respect you enough to hear what you’re saying (I’m assuming when you comment you actually want people to read it and consider what you’re saying) you should do the same in reverse, even if you disagree with what they’re saying.

      Ignorance and Hate only leads to War and Death.

    • theneverfox
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      1 year ago

      Jumping in to say: fuck the tolerance paradox.

      There’s no paradox in tolerance. Tolerance means you accept everyone existing within the societal contract - period. Doesn’t matter if they’re Republican, a racist, or anything else

      Behavior out of bounds should be fought appropriately. If someone uses words to express racism, call them a disgusting asshole. If a bunch of neonazis organize for an act of violence, confront it with violence. Respond appropriately.

      Conversely, if a racist can be around people of other races without acting racist, accept them in the group to reinforce their rehabilitation. If someone with braindead opinions bites their tongue and keeps it to themselves, tolerate them.

      There’s no paradox - there’s acceptable behavior and unacceptable behavior. If anyone, displays only acceptable behavior, you tolerate them - full stop. If anyone goes out of bounds, you respond appropriately to correct the behavior - full stop.

      The “paradox of tolerance” is people justifying attacking people. This myth does nothing but ensure there’s no way back for people who have drifted out of bounds - it’s a recipe for radicalizing people.

      I’m genuinely convinced the “paradox of tolerance” is a psyops designed to fracture society by breeding extremists… If there’s no tolerance when they behave and no way back, what do you think is going to happen? Either their beliefs that they’re under attack get constantly reinforced and they get further pushed out of bounds, or we kill them all before they destroy our society

      There has to be a way back, or the only way forward is ideological purges

      • Nahvi@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Glad to hear someone spell this out. Hopefully more people read it.

        • theneverfox
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          1 year ago

          I’ve been saying it for a good while now, and almost never get much response -but it’s worth saying anyways.

          Please help spread this idea… It’ll never be popular, but it’s important. Far too few people get that, but words that ring true tend to stick with people down the line

    • Nahvi@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      There is a far cry between tolerance without limit and hating anyone that doesn’t agree with you. I can give you a hint as to which side you have been arguing for in case you got confused along the way.

        • Nahvi@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          Stop talking to me.

          Cute. You involved yourself in my dialogue, not the other way around. You could have stopped responding at any point.

          It is hard being presented with logical reason that disagrees with our emotional beliefs. Look up cognitive dissonance. It might help you reconcile the pain.

          • dragonflyteaparty@lemmy.world
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            1 year ago

            No, it’s hard to have a conversation with someone who refuses to respond to what they are commenting to and instead responding to arguments spacecowboy didn’t make. Funny that.

            • Nahvi@lemmy.world
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              1 year ago

              SC lead with a false dichotomy and then when I gave them a genuine opinion anyways responded with “idgaf what you think”. At which point did you think I should have spent more time giving in-depth answers?

              I don’t mind answering a question if you have one and are engaging in good faith. If however you lead with bad faith arguments, then twist and dismiss my opinions, I will have to apologize in advance because in that case I won’t spend much time on the responses either.

              Was there something they asked that you wanted to know the answer to?