• Semi-Hemi-Demigod
    8•9 months ago

    Proposed and actual legislation. Complex articles about the implications of policy decisions. Scientific and medical articles. Anything that can produce an informed electorate is what they should be able to read, and most of that is well above a sixth grade level.

    • prowess2956
      6•9 months ago

      I’m really enjoying you trying to change the mind of someone who is clearly three fifth graders in a trench coat.

      • Semi-Hemi-Demigod
        5•9 months ago

        My hope is that somebody else reading the exchange will see the depths of the ignorance of OP. Because they’re pretty fucking dumb.

    • Primarily0617
      -3•9 months ago

      Why on earth do you think high reading level is a skill that correlates with the ability to parse legislation? I’ve literally had somebody trained in law try to explain specific laws to me and be completely wrong. Knowing long words isn’t going to help you. A similar argument applies for your other examples.

      If you’re reading a technical document aimed at professionals in the field, I literally don’t care what your reading level is: you’re probably not going to correctly parse the text unless you have the background knowledge the text assumes you have.

      If you’re reading an article aimed at a general audience, then congratulations: it’s already written in a way that you can understand it, because it’s aimed at a general audience. If nobody could read it, nobody would buy it.

      • Semi-Hemi-Demigod
        3•9 months ago

        Why on earth do you think high reading level is a skill that correlates with the ability to parse legislation? I’ve literally had somebody trained in law try to explain specific laws to me and be completely wrong. Knowing long words isn’t going to help you. A similar argument applies for your other examples.

        If you think that reading level is just “long words” then your literature teachers completely failed you, and I’m sorry.

        If you’re reading a technical document aimed at professionals in the field, I literally don’t care what your reading level is: you’re not going to correctly parse the text unless you have the background knowledge the text assumes you have.

        If you have a high enough reading level you can do further research to learn what the experts know. You can read multiple sources and make your own connections. You don’t have to trust someone just because they say they have expert knowledge - you can check them.

        If you’re reading an article aimed at a general audience, then congratulations: it’s already written in a way that you can understand it, because it’s aimed at a general audience. If nobody could read it, nobody would buy it.

        So if most people can only read at a 2nd grade level it’s okay for journalists to write articles like See Dog Run? How are we supposed to communicate complicated ideas without complex language?

          • Semi-Hemi-Demigod
            2•9 months ago

            Coming up with a way to quantify the complexity of a text to determine reading level is very different from the process of people reading.

            But if you’re okay with an educated elite ruling over the ignorant masses, I don’t think I can convince you that people aren’t things.

            • Primarily0617
              -2•9 months ago

              Coming up with a way to quantify the complexity of a text to determine reading level is very different from the process of people reading.

              We’re literally discussing a study that attempted to quantify the complexity of texts people are comfortable reading. What did you think we were talking about?

          • @TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.idEnglish
            1•9 months ago

            Lol. That’s why, as explained in the Wiki article you linked to, it’s a requirement in many states that auto insurance policies be written at no more than a 9th grade reading level.

            But sure, having 6th grade reading skills is perfectly fine.

            What a joke.

      • Very_Bad_Janet
        2•9 months ago

        I’ve literally had somebody trained in law try to explain specific laws to me and be completely wrong.

        Do you have a sixth grade reading level? Otherwise I don’t think this helps your argument.

        • Primarily0617
          0•9 months ago

          No, I went and fact checked with different lawyers, since I understand that parsing legislation isn’t something that’s performed particularly well by laymen.