• Bernie believes in the eradication of capitalism, he’s a socialist working in a fucked over Overton window that means the best policies he can argue for would fall under social democracy at best.

      Which, to be very clear, makes him a raging commie by American political standards.

      The only people who argue he’s a capitalist are people that think socialism is when poor.

        • He specifically describes himself as a democratic socialist instead of a social democrat but I also haven’t read the book so feel free to quote an excerpt from it saying he thinks the capitalist model is the only viable one.

            • @SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works
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              45 months ago

              I’m about as far-left as they come. I want to understand.

              What would it mean in terms of policy to “call for the abolition of private ownership of the means of production”? Would you prefer something closer to the Meidner Plan? Because that’s further left than Bernie’s plan but could also be considered part of the “Nordic Model”.

              As far as I can tell, this kind of rhetoric stems from a lack of understanding of the economic similarities between the “Nordic Model” and Chinese-style communism.

              Socialism can develop differently in different countries. As such I believe that it’s better to engage in international solidarity, rather than nit pick differences.

              But, I’m open to being wrong.

        • Iceblade
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          05 months ago

          As a Swede, what he’s been advocating for doesn’t sound like the nordic model to me.

    • @Telodzrum@lemmy.world
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      -105 months ago

      Liberalism actually has a lot of definitions. It is a classical philosophical concept, a modern political philosophical concept, a term to describe a lower value of risk aversion, a term to mean supplied in abundance, and (here) a political science term used to describe an entire half of a relative political spectrum whose center point is determined by the specific body politic being measured. So, big shooter, no you are mistaken at a very basic level. All nations have both a liberal and conservative spectrum within their own political system. And, just to raise your level of education on the subject, you know what? Even within those subgroups, there is a liberal and conservative divide based on the relative ideology of the subgroup. And fun fact, you can yet still divide those subgroups of subgroups — this is a large part of how the phenomenon of group polarization happens.