• @pdxfed@lemmy.world
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    175 months ago

    Yep and it will end in massive public giveaway in free loan money to retrofit buildings to something useful, like residential(yes I know of the challenges but there is no better option). Even progressive cities are fucked because their downtown cores that they sold gladly sold out or allowed to be developed out from under their constituents have almost all their tax dollars coming from CRE so they are levered to pro up CRE.

    • @pearable@lemmy.ml
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      5 months ago

      I hope they’ll do retrofits. I wonder what that would do to the housing market. If it actually made housing affordable a huge chunk of investors and home owners would be royally pissed. Great way to decrease homelessness, and I might be able to afford a house, but I doubt they’ll do it for that and previous reasons.

      • @pdxfed@lemmy.world
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        25 months ago

        The other sad part is it answers many problems on traffic and congestion by doing what most countries do to enable density; build up not out with incredible efficiency gains. There are many social benefits as well and in a society that struggles with depression and loneliness as much as America, hard to think of a solution that solves as many problems as taking empty buildings and adding affordable housing.

      • @helenslunch@feddit.nl
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        35 months ago

        As far as I can tell everyone who has tried this has failed. The energy for the grow lights is too expensive.

        • @Fedizen@lemmy.world
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          15 months ago

          Also it would require changing commercial buildings to industrial. I’m not an expert on this but soil weighs a lot so unless these are plant nurseries I would expect its a more expensive transition than than residential as we’re talking adding like forklift elevators and drains to everything.