I use twitter and I really like the furry art community on there. I also like Mastodon or related ActivityPub services.

Due to recent events lots of people search for alternatives and I feel just very frustrated see all those artists looking for Zucks Threads or Jacks Bluesky when Mastodon is right there, without a chance of a twitter situation ever happening again. They seem to avoid Mastodon like cats avoiding water.
What have we done wrong, and how can we make it better.

  • 稲荷大神の狐
    8•1 year ago

    The thing is, most of them are looking to Threads and BlueSky because that is where the majority of normie non technical people are going to go. It will also give them a far bigger outreach of having their art seen and noticed by bigger groups of people.

    But mastodon also suffers because the second biggest instance, pawoo.net l, leaves many people with a bad experience since they host rampant amounts of pedophilic content and fetishists galore and a lot of mastodon instances defederate from it because of it’s peoblems.

    I left that instance when I got hit with some of that content, disturbing to say the least… I left for the much better packmates.org mastodon instance (hosted by our yiffit admin @Wander@yiffit.net )

    Pawoo was meant as a tie in to the Japanese art gallery site pixiv but even though it still has those tie ins, it’s been sold off multiple times. And the current owners will not do anything to curve the pedophilic content on it

    Pawoo is one of the biggest black eyes for mastodon and probably hurts it when people are deciding to use mastodon, threads, or bluesky.

    • AlexmitterOP
      3•1 year ago

      The thing is, most of them are looking to Threads and BlueSky because that is where the majority of normie non technical people are going to go.

      I would agree when Mastodon would it not already make it so easy for normies to join.
      If you can make a mail account, you can make a mastodon account.

      But mastodon also suffers because the second biggest instance, pawoo.net l, leaves many people with a bad experience since they host rampant amounts of pedophilic content and fetishists galore and a lot of mastodon instances defederate from it because of it’s peoblems.

      This is really a problem, not just because pawoo exists but some friends of mine really enjoy the japanese drawing community and they are actually all very active on pawoo, which is inaccessible from western mastodon. It leaves a double sour taste, not just because of the disgusting content they allow on there but also because people can not follow accounts they liked on twitter. But Pawoo won’t stop, what they do is not illegal in Japan and the Japanese just do not care what westerners think. They do not care about being de-federated from the world.

      But Pawoo should not effect the furry art community, or does it?

      • MugoxEnglish
        2•1 year ago

        I would agree when Mastodon would it not already make it so easy for normies to join. If you can make a mail account, you can make a mastodon account.

        It’s not entirely true. I mean, it’s easy to create account on any instance. It’s not easy to understand the concept of fediverse, be “discoverable” as an artist or sometimes even following someone on another instance. That’s why normies would pick something like threads or twitter, and the artists would have to choose the services that are more popular.

        The question though, why won’t they use mastodon alongside other services. And to help them use mastodon, developers could create tools that would make it easier to post and read to/from multiple services at the same time, for example twitter + mastodon + threads. But it won’t be easy now to create such an app, because of twitter api costs, so probably won’t happen. Managing another service without big payoff might not be worth their while. Also, it’s what I assume would be the issue, so maybe I’m wrong, not an artist myself

        • AlexmitterOP
          3•1 year ago

          And to help them use mastodon, developers could create tools that would make it easier to post and read to/from multiple services at the same time

          I am not sure if that is actually the issue. Many artists already post on multiple commercial services and it was never seen as a problem.