I don’t like Biden either, but anyone with half a brain knows there are two choices in the 2020 election. If we had a sane voting system, voting third party might be worth it, but as it stands, no one but you knows your favorite candidate exists and unless you want to become their campaign manager that will still be true in November. Even if you did, and even if you convinced two thirds of the people who would otherwise have voted for Biden to vote for your chosen candidate instead, Trump would still win because half the country voted for him and your guy only got a third. If you vote third party you might as well stay home.

Not voting isn’t going to stop the genocide in Gaza. The US will continue to funnel them arms no matter which candidate wins this November. Trump practically campaigns on how much he hates the Jews and he’s publicly told Israel to “finish up their war”. He’ll also make life a living hell for anyone who isn’t a straight cisgender male back here at home.

A vote for a candidate is not an endorsement of them or their policies, it’s a statement that you like their policies more than the other guy’s, and “sticking it to liberals” and “refusing to support genocide” (that’s not what voting for Biden is doing, by the way – a vote for either candidate is a vote for genocide and a vote for neither is an endorsement of both) is not more important than keeping the furthest right politician America has ever seen out of office.

How incredibly privileged do you have to be to see an entire national election as what will happen in the Middle East and ignore Trump’s campaign promises to wipe transgender Americans off the map, and further, to not realize that the same thing will happen in the Middle East regardless of which candidate wins?

I hate Biden as much as every other leftist here. But I’ll still vote for him because Trump is worse. If there’s a single bone in your body that cares about the lives of your trans friends you will too.

  • @Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
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    Genocide Joe has done everything israel wanted to aid their Genocide so far. Aside from lip service no real action has been taken against israel.

    Bidens administration just openly said they believe israel isn’t committing war crimes after starving an entire population. And israel just announced a huge annexation of the west bank. And Biden secretly gave israel every single weapon they needed, and now refunded them their free Genocide money.

    Trump cannot be worse than Biden if Biden already does everything israel wants.

    • @AVincentInSpaceOP
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      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-urges-israel-to-finish-it-up-and-end-war-against-hamas-in-gaza/ar-BB1kyZr4

      Trump is not going to stop doing everything Israel tells him. He is, however, going to make sweeping policy changes here that will make every transgender and/or gay person here in America wish they’d never been born.

      How incredibly privileged do you have to be to see this entire election through the lens of what will happen to Gazans, and further, to not realize that Trump and Biden want the exact same thing?

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        How privileged that you’re willing to endorse Genocide brown people rather than trying to get a third party candidate to win. And then use gay people as a shield to defend Genocide. Absolutely disgusting.

        After Biden wins in 2024 you’re going to tell people to “vote dem again or it all ends” in 2028. And again in 2032. And again and again.

        Genocide is the line people with any morals will not cross. Go tell the Blue Fascist that he stops the Genocide or he will 100% lose.

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          Did you read my original post?

          I don’t like Biden either, but anyone with half a brain knows there are two choices in the 2020 election. If we had a sane voting system, like ranked choice, voting third party might be worth it, but as it stands, no one but you knows your favorite candidate exists and unless you want to become their campaign manager that will still be true in November. Even if you did, and even if you convinced two thirds of the people who would otherwise have voted for Biden to vote for your chosen candidate instead, Trump would still win because half the country voted for him and your guy only got a third. If you vote third party you might as well stay home.

          A vote for a candidate is not an endorsement of them or their policies, it’s a statement that you like their policies more than the other guy’s, and “sticking it to liberals” and “refusing to support genocide” (that’s not what voting for Biden is doing, by the way – a vote for either candidate is a vote for genocide and a vote for neither is an endorsement of both) is not more important than keeping the furthest right politician America has ever seen out of office.

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            Trying to do mental gymnastics on the definition on what you are voting for. Can’t even defend it anymore so we’re just reaching Republican logic of “Yeah but he’s not the blue guy just vote for Trump”.

            By voting for Biden you are directly endorsing Genocide and you are part of the problem. If everyone stopped using your logic we would easily have a third party win already.

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              Even if you did, and even if you convinced two thirds of the people who would otherwise have voted for Biden to vote for your chosen candidate instead, Trump would still win because half the country voted for him and your guy only got a third.

              What part of this aren’t you getting

              I’m not saying we have to support Biden because he’s blue and Trump is red. I’m saying we have to support Biden because Trump wants to make being trans illegal and thinks global warming is fake, and Biden doesn’t.

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                And Biden is complicit in Genocide which is far far worse than any of the things you mentioned.

                And the other things will happen anyway if you vote Biden. Albeit 4 year later when Biden shifts the country even further right.

                • @AVincentInSpaceOP
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                  DO YOU THINK TRUMP WON’T BE??? Do you think he will not jump at the chance to give aid to America’s allies?

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                    Israel is not an American ally israel is a Genocidal Nazi state.

                    And why is Trump relevant here? Nobody who jumps ship from the Genocrats is going to Trump.