• floofloof@lemmy.ca
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      6 months ago

      Ok, Israel decapitated Palestinian babies and the media are not reporting it.

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          6 months ago

          From Up First:

          Disturbing description of violence against children

          He says he found one kid with his stomach sliced and his intestines out. Another child had been decapitated. He also said he saw children in body parts.

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              Decapitating, because there isn’t evidence of intent. Just phenomenally cruel and negligent dropping a bomb anywhere near civilians, especially at that density. Then again, I suppose intent gets fuzzy given how foreseeable something like this was.

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                Right, and the one kid wasn’t disemboweled, they had spontaneous oopsy-doodles-guts-all-noodles, and the other wasn’t dismembered, they went red-rover-red-rover-your-limbs-are-all-over.

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                  Disemboweling is disemboweling, dismemberment is dismemberment, neither one has any bearing on intent. Beheading implies the bombs were dropped at least in part to decapitate children, which there is zero evidence of. But again, I don’t think the intent distinction necessarily matters that much, given that Israel bombed an area where this was a foreseeable outcome.

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                    I agree with you. Beheading means decapitation as a form of execution.

                    At this point it’s really splitting hairs. The IDF literally has a program called “Where’s Daddy” that allows them to make sure suspects are at home with their families when they bomb them; so I think it’s safe to infer that they intend to kill at least some portion of children.

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                I don’t think intent is required. Behead’s definition says “cut off the head of (someone), especially as a form of execution.” The especially part means it isn’t exclusive to that.

                Both Be-head and De-capit(ate) = Off-head

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                  I think this is just one of those “language is complicated” things. I’m seeing multiple definitions out there. I don’t know really how much it matters, it starts to approach a semantic argument and getting away from the actual concrete events that have occurred.

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      As someone who watched the video, I don’t think anyone in that situation cares about your distinction.

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          I’ve seen enough shock images posted online for a lifetime already. The audio from the witness on NPR’s Up First was enough.

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      No they aren’t.

      Decapitate is used in the definition of behead.

      Behead is used in the definition of decapitate. What kind of weird-ass apologia are you doing here anyway.

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      You’re trying to deflect from a story about murdered Palestinian children with a “Well, ackchyually…”

      What a piece of shit

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      I’m not sure how material the difference is, but you’re correct: beheading is deliberate decapitation. I assume they’re just being sloppy about definitions.

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        I’m pretty sure that dropping a 2000lb bomb on a refugee camp is deliberate.

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      Thanks for informing us. Of course you know this isn’t the most important thing about this, but at least I learned something new.