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    6 months ago

    his pro gay “history” only goes back 2.5 years. lol

    while his any-gay history goes back 40+ years

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      6 months ago

      It’s a good thing he’s not going to be running for president 40 years ago, isn’t it? Unless you’re willing to make a blanket generalization that no one can change, maybe back way from the microphone.

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            6 months ago

            it shows that he has no real principles and is just a politician who only cares about getting votes to maintain the status quo

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              You: Politicians should listen to constituents to represent them and change positions based on new information.

              Also You: Anytime a politician changes their position or just a lie to get votes [which is somehow bad].

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                it speaks to the heart of biden’s character; he literally singled out and made the lives of a vulnerable group of people miserable for decades because it got him votes. he didn’t change; he just switched faces to get votes and blue maga is giving him a pass despite him being an instrumental figure that created the the political reality we have in this country today.

                he’d still be voting against gay people too if it weren’t for younger voters making that a problem for him and he’s still exactly the same he was on every single other issue; ask the railroad strikers; or people crippled by student loan debt; or refugees imprisoned for fleeing from persecution; or the palestinians in gaza if you doubt that much.

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      Aww man, wish I caught that. Why didn’t the Biden administration help the LGBT community 40 years ago!? He really wasn’t a great president in 1984. /S

      Look, his recent record shows the kind of administration he’s running, and what we could expect in the next 4 years. You may remember he (and Obama) said he believed marriage was between a man and a woman during the 2008 debates. Then, you may remember under the same administration, Gay marriage was federally legalized. It’s not like he’s going to go back to his pre-2008 stance in November.

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        Aww man, wish I caught that. Why didn’t the Biden administration help the LGBT community 40 years ago!? He really wasn’t a great president in 1984. /S

        there were plenty of pro-gay politicians in 1984 and biden’s track record of actively making it worse is a 30 second google search away.

        … You may remember he (and Obama) said he believed marriage was between a man and a woman during the 2008 debates. Then, you may remember under the same administration, Gay marriage was federally legalized…

        gay marriage was made legal through the courts so it became legalized in spite of that administration; not because of it.

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          in spite of that administration

          Wtf are you talking about? Do you not remember DOMA being repealed which was crucial for gay marriage to pass? Here is a quick list for you to use as evidence that the Obama administration was hostile to LGBTQ people.

          https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2016/06/09/fact-sheet-obama-administrations-record-and-lgbt-community

          plenty of pro-gay politicians in 1984

          Wtactualf are you talking about? Yes there were a handful, but being gay was ESPECIALLY a political death sentence then. Saying this just erases the fraught past we’ve had, and doesn’t recognize the INSANE amount of progress we’ve made.

          Also if you read my comment you’d recognize that argument is moot, as his current administration is what is important.

          You gotta go and audit your history YouTube channels. You’re getting some wacked info.

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            6 months ago

            the obergefell v. hodges supreme court case made doma invalid. you’re thinking of the respect for marriage act which not only had no impact but allowed for people to legally protected if they rejected gay marriage.

            hollywood and political agitators made that progress happen; while those people you’re supporting remained neutral at best and voted against it at the worst.

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            6 months ago

            it means that he only does the things that will get him votes