• Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    5 months ago

    Because chasers undermine the expressed gender identity of trans individuals for the sake of their own sexual pleasure. Calling it “transphilic” is just semantical wordplay that dismisses the inherently predatory nature of chasers.

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      5 months ago

      I don’t get it.

      How is it undermining that and not affirming? I mean to fetishise a group is wrong, I get that and that is also my opinion but if they want to fuck a transwoman they want that because she is a woman which affirms the womanhood?

      And the point is how is it transhate if you like the trans aspect specifically. Doesn’t make sense to me.

      It is not a wordplay it is what those words mean. Phobic means something like hate or fear and phile means something like love or attraction.

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        5 months ago

        The poor thing thinks words mean whatever they decide they mean. They’re not capable of explaining their position in an intelligent way, either.

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          5 months ago

          Hmm okay. But the I still don’t understand how it is transphobic.

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              5 months ago

              I can see that. But that wouldn’t be “negrophobic” either. Not everything negativ in the context of a group is phobia.

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            5 months ago

            You don’t understand how undermining someone’s gender identity by focusing on them being trans over them being their expressed gender is transphobic?

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              5 months ago

              No.

              Edit: as phobic means you want to get away from something or don’t want it to exist. Fetishising is the exact opposite.

              If someone is arachnophobic that doesn’t mean he wants to fuck a spider or undermine the identity of the spider. That someone wants the spider be gone because it is a spider.

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                  5 months ago

                  This whole exchange could be more productive if you could explain your opinions.

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                    5 months ago

                    They’re arguing that being sexually attracted to something is a phobia, the definition of which is having an irrational fear of something.

                    Do you really think this person has the ability to string enough words together to justify their opinion?

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                  5 months ago

                  You’re really gonna have to start writing more than one sentence per comment if you want anyone here to know what the fuck you’re on about

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                    5 months ago

                    I wrote a lot more than 1 sentence in the beginning and linked a good thread with a bunch of trans individuals discussing said topic. They aren’t adding anything, just playing semantics with philic vs phobic.

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      5 months ago

      Someone upvoted this idiotic take, and whoever it was, I’m disappointed in you.