• tabular@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        26
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        5 months ago

        What features were lacking from mesa or Cinnamon generally?

        I have 4k 1440, 1080 monitor (120hz or higher) on Mint edge, what would I gain from switch to somethibg else?

        • 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          26
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          5 months ago

          mesa is outdated by default, not supporting rx 7000 cards unless you use the edge iso.

        • 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          12
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          5 months ago

          plasma has wayland support, tons of customizability, better multi monitor support, a great suite of applications including a text editor with lsp support and much more, and in general looks nicer. cinnamon is sort of the bare minimum

          • mihnt@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            9
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            5 months ago

            better multi monitor support

            I run a 3x1 setup and KDE didn’t handle it any better than Cinnamon did.

            Wayland support is coming to Mint. You can actually use it on 21.3 right now but it is unstable.

            Rest of what you said is opinion.

            • 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              5
              arrow-down
              4
              ·
              5 months ago

              Wayland has objectively better multi monitor support in every case. You were encountering tearing issues before switching, maybe you just didn’t notice.

              • mihnt@lemmy.ca
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                5
                ·
                5 months ago

                Well, I got rid of KDE and I’m on Cinnamon right now, so where are these tearing issues? You think I would have noticed after over a year of use.

            • 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              5 months ago

              the rest also isn’t just an opinion, cinnamon does not have an equivalent to kdenlive, krita, or kate. even the existing applications are just not on the same level. it’s an acceptable desktop, but plasma and gnome are just better.

              • Liz@midwest.social
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                5
                ·
                5 months ago

                I use KdenLive on Mint whenever I need to edit a video. I’ve never bothered to look for the other two because I use Darktable and GIMP for my photo editing, but I can check to see if they’re available if you want me to.

              • mihnt@lemmy.ca
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                5
                ·
                edit-2
                5 months ago

                Why would I care what software KDE comes with? This is Linux. I can install whatever works best for me. Including the whole of KDE software suite if I so chose. You KDE fans are voracious.

          • tabular@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            5 months ago

            Does that include support for variable refresh rate with multiple monitor (Freesync in my case).

        • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          5 months ago

          Cinnamons compositor doesn’t turn off for games (it’s supposed to but has been bugged for years) which costs you fps.

          Playing Alan Wake 2 at launch was only possible with the latest Mesa drivers compiled from the AUR due to some graphics features that it required.

          • TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            8
            ·
            edit-2
            5 months ago

            It doesn’t just cost FPS. It straight up breaks some games that run fine on other distros.

            Does it still have that feature that kills and restarts cinnamon when memory leaks start getting to be too much? I honestly had to laugh at that when that was introduced.

            • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              5
              ·
              5 months ago

              No clue. Haven’t used it in years. I was done when I went looking for a fix for the compositor thing and found a years-old open bug report.

          • tabular@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            5 months ago

            I assume compiling Mesa is rather difficult to set up? For reference I’ve not bothered to try and compile Lutris or Wine.

            • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              edit-2
              5 months ago

              With AUR it’s as easy as installing any other package, actually.

              You just install the git version from AUR.

              • tabular@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                5 months ago

                Installing Arch appears to be more complex than Mint’s Click Yes x4 GUI. Should I expect almost everything to just work after install?

                • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  5 months ago

                  Not even close, if you actually install barebones arch, then barebones arch is exactly that, barebones. You wont even have a DE.

                  Endeavour is what you want. It’s just straight up arch, but with all the stuff you’d want to set up anyway done for you.

                  And if you want an “app-store” style app to browse packages with, and not fiddle with the command line to manage packages, install pamac. It can be expanded with AUR and flatpak support.

                  • tabular@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    5 months ago

                    If I knew what parts I most wanted then maybe I could do bare arch but I guess Endeaver is the way to ho.