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    If I got my way we’d never have been in this situation in the first place. Gore would have been elected in 2000 and the Republicans would have collapsed to the rank of a third party with no realistic electoral prospects.

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      And because you you didn’t get your way- you’re going to punish an untold amount of people.

      Pretty selfish if you ask me.

      But you do you. Even if Biden doesn’t win, I’ll know I tried to save the rights and freedoms of the people who will lose them. But I guess entitlement and privilege sometimes allows one to not have to think or worry about these things.

      We’re done here. I e said what needed be said.

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        And because you you didn’t get your way- you’re going to punish an untold amount of people.

        And this is why the Democrats are going to lose, the total inability of the party or its supporters to take responsibility for their mistakes or even to recognize them as such.

        I’m here warning people to make ready for the inevitable and you’re accusing me of “punishing people” as if I have any power over the national committee that made these decisions.

        Pretty selfish if you ask me.

        How many pregnant people or queer folks have you helped evacuate from Red States since the end of Roe v. Wade? Have you done anything other than lambast people online?

        I guess entitlement and privilege sometimes allows one to not have to think or worry about these things.

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          Evacuating from red states? What the fuck are you talking about? So apparently if I’m not playing Underground Railroad to the pregnant and LGBTQ, I’m not doing my part? Okay, how many have YOU…. Evacuated.

          Jesus man… that’s one hell of a straw man.

          And it’s only inevitable if people don’t get off their asses and vote. But since you have taken to calling it such, that clearly shows you have no intention to try and change that.

          Wow man…

          Imagine having the balls to blame those that are doing the ONE thing we have remaining to stop America from becoming a dictatorship.

          VOTE.

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            Evacuating from red states? What the fuck are you talking about? So apparently if I’m not playing Underground Railroad to the pregnant and LGBTQ, I’m not doing my part?

            I notice you didn’t respond to the second part of my queation, where I asked if you were doing anything to help at all. Seems a bit sus that you can’t immediately tell me what sort of actions you’ve taken to support the people at risk under the new regime.

            It’s only inevitable if people don’t get off their asses and vote.

            Whether people go out and vote depends on how much the candidates inspire them to do so. Trying to blame the voters for the outcome of an election is counterproductive at best.

            Imagine having the balls to blame those that are doing the ONE thing we have remaining to stop America from becoming a dictatorship.

            You built a time machine and went back to complete the post-civil-war reconstruction?

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              Whatever makes you feel like you’re not part of the problem man. I’m not going to argue this with you.

              Either vote, or you’re part of the problem. That’s where we are now. We’d all like it to be different. But it isn’t. Whoever’s fault it is- is IRRELEVANT.

              Vote- because LIVES FUCKING DEPEND ON IT.

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                If all you’re doing is voting and whining about people who don’t vote hard enough then you’re part of the problem.

                The problem is apathy, and depressed voting turnout is a symptom of apathy. If you want more people to care, then stop moaning on the internet and start volunteering.

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                  I’m sorry, do you think you know me? Do you know what I do to contribute to the marginalized and oppressed?

                  Do you know my EIN?

                  If all YOU are doing is flexing your entitlement on social media, then I’d say from the look of things- I’m not the one that needs to stop moaning. Apathy isn’t the only issue facing voter turnout.

                  People like you are the bigger issue. Almost 100 million people didn’t vote in 2016. Do you stand to suggest that all of them are apathetic and “depressed”?

                  You have no idea what you’re talking about.

                  Discussion is over.

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                    I’m sorry, do you think you know me? Do you know what I do to contribute to the marginalized and oppressed?

                    No, but when I asked, you dodged the question and got offended.

                    If all YOU are doing is flexing your entitlement on social media

                    So, nothing then? Just the reflexive projection when someone poses an entirely reasonable query about your contributions to the political process?

                    People like you are the bigger issue. Almost 100 million people didn’t vote in 2016.

                    Amd now you’re assuming I didn’t vote? Why?

                    Do you stand to suggest that all of them are apathetic and “depressed”?

                    Not all, but it is the most significant reason for someone to abstain from voting.

                    You have no idea what you’re talking about.

                    Discussion is over.

                    What discussion? All you’ve done is shout “VOTE!” and whine about how some people don’t think voting is enough.

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              Oh, and for the record, it’s not “sus” to not tell others what one does to help. I don’t use charity to win arguments. And asking stupid shit like this, thinking you’re going to catch someone is some gotcha! scenario speaks volumes of your maturity.

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                    I don’t know why I bother trying anymore. You’d think I’d have learned my lesson after five straight elections of trying to convince liberals that voting isn’t enough to stop fascism.