Vice President Kamala Harris quickly racked up endorsements after
President Joe Biden exited the 2024 race, but some made the case for an
open convention.
I think she’s a bad choice to beat Trump and the most important thing is to beat Trump. If she’s the pick I’ll back her - but I’m not going to support someone who I think will lose while there’s still a choice.
Edit: Beautiful show of unity - downvoting someone saying they’ll back the eventual candidate. This kind of head-in-sand bullshit is what loses us fucking elections and it was all over the place shouting down people with legitimate criticisms of Biden before he stepped down.
And who realistically is a better choice at this point? I can’t think of a single other Democrat with the recognition to pull a presidential campaign together in 3 months.
The only person I have heard that even remotely has a chance of being the pick instead of Harris is Gavin Newsom and he both doesn’t seem to want it and also polls really badly against Trump.
Yeah, he’s widely known outside of California, but largely because he’s a massive punching bag for conservatives. Not a good pick for a presidential race.
I think Gavin Newsom will be a very strong candidate if he had time to prime the pump. Which is I imagine what he was planning to do in 2028. A shorter, if we can call four months short good Lord, campaign is not in his favor.
She performed poorly on the national stage last time she was on it. She has a decent voting record but doesn’t have a lot of sponsored legislation. She has a deep flaw from being a former prosecutor. I’m not aware of her having a passion to fix any particular problems.
I think we can do better and choose someone who can excite the voterbase to get folks to turn up. We need to fight voter apathy.
I’m not aware of her having a passion to fix any particular problems.
Just because you’re not aware of something doesn’t mean it isn’t the case.
Let’s see if she can deliver a passionate platform, it’s kinda her entire job as a politician and if I, a hyperaware political person, am not familiar with it, then most people have no fucking clue.
Most people have no fucking clue because she’s been in the shadows for four years as VP and I think it was pretty obvious that Obama’s former VP was going to get the nomination in 2020.
She still has a lot of time for voters to get to know her and your claim of hyperawareness didn’t apparently extend to the fact that a whole lot of presidents have been lawyers.
As a black person she’ll alienate the racists in the DNC. There aren’t as many as the DNC, but it would be naive to think there aren’t any. As much as I don’t want to cater to racists, beating Trump is more important right now.
As a woman she will alienate misogynists. Same thing.
As a cop she’s going to alienate a ton of voters. She’s recently changed her positions on a lot of crime-related issues like marijuana, but idk how much that’s going to help her win the BLM crowd.
I’ll vote for her if she’s the pick, no question. Heck, there are very few people the DNC could nominate at this point that I wouldn’t vote for. I suppose as Biden’s VP she was kind of nominated in the primary if you squint. But yeah… DNC elites appointing a cop at the last minute doesn’t strike me as the best way to fight fascism.
Identity politics aside, I like a lot of what she claims to support, but that’s assuming that she’s truly no longer the prosecutor she used to be. She has good records on reproductive rights, economics, LGBTQ+ support. My biggest gripe with her would be she’s still just as pro-Israel as Biden and most of the DNC seems to be.
Yes, I’m sure there will be a lot of “unity” from people like yourself when it’s Kamala Harris anyway.
There will be, yes.
I think she’s a bad choice to beat Trump and the most important thing is to beat Trump. If she’s the pick I’ll back her - but I’m not going to support someone who I think will lose while there’s still a choice.
Edit: Beautiful show of unity - downvoting someone saying they’ll back the eventual candidate. This kind of head-in-sand bullshit is what loses us fucking elections and it was all over the place shouting down people with legitimate criticisms of Biden before he stepped down.
Why in specific is she a bad choice?
And who realistically is a better choice at this point? I can’t think of a single other Democrat with the recognition to pull a presidential campaign together in 3 months.
The only person I have heard that even remotely has a chance of being the pick instead of Harris is Gavin Newsom and he both doesn’t seem to want it and also polls really badly against Trump.
Yeah, he’s widely known outside of California, but largely because he’s a massive punching bag for conservatives. Not a good pick for a presidential race.
I think Gavin Newsom will be a very strong candidate if he had time to prime the pump. Which is I imagine what he was planning to do in 2028. A shorter, if we can call four months short good Lord, campaign is not in his favor.
She performed poorly on the national stage last time she was on it. She has a decent voting record but doesn’t have a lot of sponsored legislation. She has a deep flaw from being a former prosecutor. I’m not aware of her having a passion to fix any particular problems.
I think we can do better and choose someone who can excite the voterbase to get folks to turn up. We need to fight voter apathy.
So like Joe Biden in 2020 who got elected anyway.
Who gives a shit?
That is in no way a flaw, let alone a deep one.
On top of that, 13 presidents have been lawyers, including Clinton and Obama.
Just because you’re not aware of something doesn’t mean it isn’t the case.
Let’s see if she can deliver a passionate platform, it’s kinda her entire job as a politician and if I, a hyperaware political person, am not familiar with it, then most people have no fucking clue.
Most people have no fucking clue because she’s been in the shadows for four years as VP and I think it was pretty obvious that Obama’s former VP was going to get the nomination in 2020.
She still has a lot of time for voters to get to know her and your claim of hyperawareness didn’t apparently extend to the fact that a whole lot of presidents have been lawyers.
Biden was hardly a foregone conclusion in 2020.
That was almost 4 years ago and she’s been VP since. Things have changed.
They have? She’s now popular enough to excite the base and win a sweeping victory at the convention?
(Also, I don’t know how her being a former prosecutor has changed - and I’m quite doubtful most of my other concerns have shifted either).
As a black person she’ll alienate the racists in the DNC. There aren’t as many as the DNC, but it would be naive to think there aren’t any. As much as I don’t want to cater to racists, beating Trump is more important right now.
As a woman she will alienate misogynists. Same thing.
As a cop she’s going to alienate a ton of voters. She’s recently changed her positions on a lot of crime-related issues like marijuana, but idk how much that’s going to help her win the BLM crowd.
I’ll vote for her if she’s the pick, no question. Heck, there are very few people the DNC could nominate at this point that I wouldn’t vote for. I suppose as Biden’s VP she was kind of nominated in the primary if you squint. But yeah… DNC elites appointing a cop at the last minute doesn’t strike me as the best way to fight fascism.
Identity politics aside, I like a lot of what she claims to support, but that’s assuming that she’s truly no longer the prosecutor she used to be. She has good records on reproductive rights, economics, LGBTQ+ support. My biggest gripe with her would be she’s still just as pro-Israel as Biden and most of the DNC seems to be.