• riodoro1@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Why do people even try to keep cats on vegan diet? It was your fucking choice, not the cats.

    Im vegetarian, my cat eats meat. Im not gonna force anything on him unless he comes to me and tells me he wants to try it.

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      3 months ago

      Often people watch something like Dominion, get shocked, and decide to go vegan. It’s a purely emotional decision. Don’t expect any rational choices here.

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        3 months ago

        Ummm. It’s pretty rational to go vegan/vegetarian. Humans can be healthy and we are capable to decide for ourselves. Cats on the other hand…

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              How’s this rational? That’s an emotional evaluation. I’m not even arguing with that. But that’s not the point of the discussion.

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                Maybe “nightmare” is too subjective/emotional. But it’s undeniably unsustainable, inhumane, barbaric and outdated. We know better is the biggest issue. We don’t need to treat our food that way.

                (P.S. I’m not vegan, I’m just full of cognitive dissonance lol)

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                    I’m flaming? Sorry, just was trying to point out that becoming vegan can be more than just an emotional choice.

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                Meat production is a prime contributor to climate change. Large amounts of resources go into raising meat. Further, cattle and pig production (not so much chicken) is the prime pathway to food contamination. Whenever you see lettuce recalls because of e. coli, that’s because animal shit got mixed in with the lettuce or the water for the lettuce.

                Choosing not to eat meat because of these facts seems like a pretty rational choice, no emotion involved.

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                  Oh boy, why are you arguing about things that you clearly don’t understand? “Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose.” Veganism doesn’t care about climate. People don’t go vegan to save climate. Some adopt a plant-based diet though, but these are separate bubbles that just barely intersect.

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                    Got it, so you are emotionally defining veganism in such a way that you aren’t actually vegan if you don’t get there for emotional reasons.

                    If that’s your definition of veganism then of course nobody can get there with reason. You’ve created a tautology with your emotion filled definition.

                    For the record, veganism is defined by MW as

                    : a strict vegetarian who consumes no food (such as meat, eggs, or dairy products) that comes from animals

                    also : one who abstains from using animal products (such as leather)

                    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vegan

                    That was the definition I was operating under. Sorry I didn’t Intuit your arbitrary definition you pulled from “eat meat.com” or whatever you got it.

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      I think it’s great that you don’t eat meat, that’s a step many people refuse to take. If you have recognized the horror of the animal industry, then try to avoid udder milk as well. The dairy industry is the meat industry, they go hand in hand. Dairy cows are sold as food for humans and animals after they are no longer profitable, after just a few years. Don’t force a life of misery on dairy cows.

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      3 months ago

      Hell yeah! Nobody should force their choices on any living animal. It’s very bad for a cat to force it on a vegan diet, and it’s very bad for a fish to force it to be cat food. Obviously the cat should only eat lab meat.

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        You shouldn’t own a cat if you are unwilling to take care of it. Get something else like a bunny or hamster.

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        You NEVER fucking learn do you?

        cats CANNOT survive on a vegan diet, they will go blind and die years earlier.

        So fucking tired of wikipedia scholars liking some fucking rando on youtube to justify their ideological animal abuse.

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          Yeah, as much as I love cats, I know they would vote Republican if they could, just because they love the chaos and suffering that Republican leadership naturally brings.