I wasn’t expecting anything Earth-shattering coming out of this given that everyone at Fox News was salivating for fresh meat. Problem is, not having a straight answer for anything now becomes the narrative.

This was not a great look for either of them (as little time as Walz got).

If you haven’t seen it, links below:

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

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    right, but she is still the better choice in this matter by a wide, wide margin.

    Not voting or voting for Trump because of this one issue , important though it is, and allowing a christo-facist authoritarian to assume power as a result seems like a horrible irresponsible take. (Not to mention Trump would only embolden Netanyahu and his cabinet.)

    How would abstaining or voting for Trump help the situation in Gaza at all?

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      How would abstaining or voting for Trump help the situation in Gaza at all?

      That’s the neat part, it wouldn’t.

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        I think people do care a lot, but this is the worst election to protest or shut down because of it. I know people always say that but in this case its true.

        Either way the people of Gaza have a much better chance if Trump is decisively defeated. Again, Trump is closely aligned with Netanyahu, and has said the IDF needs to “finish the job”. I would think people would be motivated to vote against him.

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          In this thread, I simply pointed out that she dodged the question about Gaza, and I was bombarded with replies about how I am endorsing Trump. This says to me that Beehaw is more scared of Trump than they care about the Palestinian genocide, bc y’all refuse to even have a conversation about this.

          Either way the people of Gaza have a much better chance if Trump is decisively defeated.

          I don’t disagree that Trump will be worse for the Palestinians. But I do disagree that things will be significantly better under Harris. 17000 dead children under Biden-Harris foreign policy, and Harris has given no indication that she will deviate from Biden’s policy on Israel.

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            Sanders very much endorses her, and hes been the most vocal about the Palestinian genocide.

            Also its perfectly possible to criticize Harris and demand better, but still vote against the guy trying to turn America into a white nationalist dictatorship.

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      How would abstaining or voting for Trump help the situation in Gaza at all?

      Why do you think these are the only options?

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        In terms of who to vote for in the U.S. presidential election, 3rd parties are spoilers. The U.S. voter is wasting their vote if they stay home or vote 3rd party.

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              Organization (protests, unions, joining a local political movement), education (yourself or others), pressuring candidates (call your reps, protests), mutual aid & voter enfranchisement (food banks, clothing donations, volunteering at polling stations, any effort to protect the homeless). All of these are options, and this is just what I can think of off the top of my head. If you’d like, here’s a page with a gallery of 346 nonviolent protest tactics.

              Much of America has become trained to think only in terms of a vote – a vote in a system that was deliberately unequal from its founding through to today – to the exclusion of all other action. To say this is suffocating to any effort to enact change is an understatement; it is self-defeating in the extreme, serves only to perpetuate the status quo or worse, and yet time and time again I see so many people who have spent next to no time thinking outside these terms.