left wingers are any better? I got one for you, the state is neither, it has both parties in it and only two parties. it is corrupt, rub two brain cells to together to arrive at a conclusion outside of the left/right framework. I know it is hard but work on it.
like why are you even make this left right when most of us are the bottom?
You’ve never heard of social security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, housing opportunities, mental health services, food banks, soup kitchens, etc etc etc
Like Jesus Christ with that comment. How fucking stupid are conservatives? Go hit your head with a hammer and see if it helps. Seemingly it couldn’t hurt.
so practically speaking not much of safety net unless you are old, or single poor mother, which i support no doubt but that is [not] a safety net a vast majority of the population.
also, note mental health services, food banks, soup kitchens >>> federal government and states hardly provide these, they are provided by private sector…
even those have been steadily eroded under successive administration since 1980s, which share of taxes paid by working people have been increasing. so working person pays more taxes and gets no safety net for the most part.
You need to get educated instead of vomiting generic talking points, it would help this country if everyone did the same.
You don’t at all question how unlikely it is that a community named ‘politics’ can have such a homogenous point of view as this one without some kind of bullshit being involved?
Every post is from a liberal-positive perspective, every comment even slightly right is downvoted to oblivion and shouted down immediately. This isn’t natural.
By the amount of downvotes my posts here receive, it would basically need to be that every single person online decided to downvote my comment.
You think that’s just natural? You think it’s because you’re sooooooooo right and I’m sooooooo wrong?
You think it’s odd that the overwhelming majority of folks support things that help others? Doesn’t say much about the community but definitely says a lot about you.
A little presumptive there, when you realize that everyone pretty much wants to helps others and the disagreements come in about what the right way to do that is.
Do you think conservatives are hatful little Devil’s just trying to hurt people? That’s what too much Twitter will do to you
I think you’re projecting a bit here, I don’t use Twitter. I live in a place where republicans are actively stripping social safety nets and rights. I get to see it first hand while reading comments about how it’s not happening and that it’s just Twitter drama 🤔
the disagreements come in about what the right way to do that is.
I mean, when one side says “these things that help people are failures because they don’t help enough people” and the other side says “but they’re helping people”, that’s not about the right way.
At no point have you offered an alternative, you’re simply saying “the other side is wrong” while using specious arguments to back it up.
Do you think conservatives are hatful little Devil’s just trying to hurt people?
Calling objectively successful policies failures is either extremely ignorant or actively trying to hurt people.
it is corrupt, rub two brain cells to together to arrive at a conclusion outside of the left/right framework.
Weird that 1/2 of this framework, the D group, always votes against gigantic tax cuts for the rich, and the R group always votes for the exact opposite. Both sides are the same opposite of each other.
like why are you even make this left right when most of us are the bottom?
Because if you are at the bottom, you would be an extreme fool to vote for the party that consistently gives gigantic tax cuts to billionaires.
Exactly! That alone is why it’s very important to vote against the GOP and their gigantic tax cuts for billionaire elites.
What did you get from Democrats having both house and presidency,
Increased minimum corporate tax rate from 0% to 20%.
Increased subsidies for ACA
Tax Cuts for middle class. $2000 per person. Plus $200 per dependent per month.
Reduction in medicare drug costs
Reduction in student loans. Sabotaged by GOP Supreme Court.
Action on climate change.
…And Biden got all that stuff done with just one vote Dem majority in the senate, which included Manshin and Arizona lady who isn’t even Dem anymore. If Dems had huge majorities, they could enable a flood of progress just like they did in the 1930’s and 1960’s.
The cope here is too strong today lol
The “both sides” nonsense is strong today lol. But still easily refuted by reality.
left wingers are any better? I got one for you, the state is neither, it has both parties in it and only two parties. it is corrupt, rub two brain cells to together to arrive at a conclusion outside of the left/right framework. I know it is hard but work on it.
like why are you even make this left right when most of us are the bottom?
Because one of the parties is better for lifting people up. Like, immeasurably better.
I won’t even say which one I think it is. You can decide for yourself.
show me these people who have been lifted up?
statistics point towards largely more poor people, worse health, more debt, less home ownership. who was lifted up and when?
What statistics show that social safety nets lead to those things?
I’ll save you time: they don’t exist
which safety nets? are they in the room here with us right now?
You’ve never heard of social security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, housing opportunities, mental health services, food banks, soup kitchens, etc etc etc
Like Jesus Christ with that comment. How fucking stupid are conservatives? Go hit your head with a hammer and see if it helps. Seemingly it couldn’t hurt.
so practically speaking not much of safety net unless you are old, or single poor mother, which i support no doubt but that is [not] a safety net a vast majority of the population.
also, note mental health services, food banks, soup kitchens >>> federal government and states hardly provide these, they are provided by private sector…
even those have been steadily eroded under successive administration since 1980s, which share of taxes paid by working people have been increasing. so working person pays more taxes and gets no safety net for the most part.
You need to get educated instead of vomiting generic talking points, it would help this country if everyone did the same.
@sadreality
In other words: you don’t know what “left winger” means.
Hint: The U.S. Democratic Party is not left wing.
True, but this is a leftist community, so they cannot see the forest for the trees
Have you made any points that are actually debatable or are you just shit posting and crying about the community (and reality) leaning left?
We can discuss points if you want, I mean any time I post any in here it’s just downvoted in the hundreds though
So I don’t really think this is the place for any real discussion. Just another echo chamber probably full of bots
“People disagree with me so they obviously must be bots.” 🙄
You don’t at all question how unlikely it is that a community named ‘politics’ can have such a homogenous point of view as this one without some kind of bullshit being involved?
Every post is from a liberal-positive perspective, every comment even slightly right is downvoted to oblivion and shouted down immediately. This isn’t natural.
By the amount of downvotes my posts here receive, it would basically need to be that every single person online decided to downvote my comment.
You think that’s just natural? You think it’s because you’re sooooooooo right and I’m sooooooo wrong?
Gotta think about it a little bit more, I think
You think it’s odd that the overwhelming majority of folks support things that help others? Doesn’t say much about the community but definitely says a lot about you.
A little presumptive there, when you realize that everyone pretty much wants to helps others and the disagreements come in about what the right way to do that is.
Do you think conservatives are hatful little Devil’s just trying to hurt people? That’s what too much Twitter will do to you
I think you’re projecting a bit here, I don’t use Twitter. I live in a place where republicans are actively stripping social safety nets and rights. I get to see it first hand while reading comments about how it’s not happening and that it’s just Twitter drama 🤔
I mean, when one side says “these things that help people are failures because they don’t help enough people” and the other side says “but they’re helping people”, that’s not about the right way.
At no point have you offered an alternative, you’re simply saying “the other side is wrong” while using specious arguments to back it up.
Calling objectively successful policies failures is either extremely ignorant or actively trying to hurt people.
Weird that 1/2 of this framework, the D group, always votes against gigantic tax cuts for the rich, and the R group always votes for the exact opposite. Both sides are the
sameopposite of each other.Because if you are at the bottom, you would be an extreme fool to vote for the party that consistently gives gigantic tax cuts to billionaires.
reality check… Trump’s tax cuts passed.
Biden could not get student loans done… Obama could not get health done properly…
Trump spend trillions on covid “bail outs” Biden came in did and the same…
What did you get from Democrats having both house and presidency, limp dick student loan reform that added USD 1T to on the genY and GenZ?
The cope here is too strong today lol
Exactly! That alone is why it’s very important to vote against the GOP and their gigantic tax cuts for billionaire elites.
Increased minimum corporate tax rate from 0% to 20%.
Increased subsidies for ACA
Tax Cuts for middle class. $2000 per person. Plus $200 per dependent per month.
Reduction in medicare drug costs
Reduction in student loans. Sabotaged by GOP Supreme Court.
Action on climate change.
…And Biden got all that stuff done with just one vote Dem majority in the senate, which included Manshin and Arizona lady who isn’t even Dem anymore. If Dems had huge majorities, they could enable a flood of progress just like they did in the 1930’s and 1960’s.
The “both sides” nonsense is strong today lol. But still easily refuted by reality.