• lets_get_off_lemmy@reddthat.com
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          Long, boring, hard to pay attention to. I read philosophy and theory sometimes but it’s few and far between for those reasons. I really have to be in a special mood to sit down and read something that dense.

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            Long, boring, hard to pay attention to.

            There are simpler, shorter, and easier works by Marx, Like Critique of the Gotha Programme, Wage Labor and Capital, as well as Value, Price, and Profit.

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          Reading Marx is like reading Adam Smith. Both wrote about economic systems before economics was even a thing. All ideas start somewhere but our ideas, and our society, have advanced dramatically in the 140+ years they’ve been dead. They’re more interesting for historical purposes than economic ones.

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            All of Marx’s main concepts, surplus value, classes and class struggle, alienation, are just as relevant today as when they were written. Much like Newton, Marx built the solid foundation that scientific socialists stand on today.

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              Right, but nobody tells anyone interested in physics to read Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica. If you’re interested in history, sure. If you’re interested in physics, read a modern physics textbook.

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            Das Kapital described crypto before digital computers were even an idea. His work is still relevant.

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              I thought to look this up cause I think it’s neat and it’s often the case that some technology is described long before you’d think. The first description of using electrical switches to do logic operations came in 1886 in a letter from Charles Sanders Peirce. That’s between Capital volume 2 and 3, and most importantly, AFTER he described the law of value.

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            Both wrote about economic systems before economics was even a thing.

            Lol. Lmao, even.

            and our society, have advanced dramatically in the 140+ years they’ve been dead.

            In what manner has this proven Marx wrong?

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              You’re very good at saying you’re right and very bad at providing evidence. The best thing about lemmy’s size is I can recognize which usernames to disregard immediately after enough encounters.

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      Do you have a good starting point? I have a rudimentary understanding of Marxism, but not much in the way of details.

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      Why would I want to read some crusty old dude that is outdated?

      Political theory has moved on since Marx yet people still cling to him like a religion (like a cult).

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        Because he isn’t outdated. People have built upon him, but the foundations he and Engels laid out remain true.

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      Good idea. Read about a hypothetical economic theory that is impossible to implement unless everyone become obedient to a small group of elitist while pretending the people are in control. I’m sure you’ll get it right this time