• celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    This is depressing as fuck. People have been murdered en masse by radicalized morons from 4chan. They literally live in this bubble of their own creation where they honestly believe that the world has singled them out for victimization.

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      This sounds scaringly similar to a country in the Middle East heavily supported by the US.

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      Terms like “outside”, “people”, “dating”, “pleasent conversations” and “touch with reality”?

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    Too bad my classmates are like that, in our cafeteria we have a machine where you press a lever with your glass and it dispenses whatever drink was above

    Well the important thing is that we have flavoured milk as one of the options, and my classmates started calling it “box milk”, thus was started by our class autistic guy (not really but his friends call him that, and like he does know every gun, tank, ship and plane that was made since the start of WW1 so there’s a reason), so thank you Pavel

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      Terminally online people who want to feel special about knowing something that other people don’t. And they have to tell everyone around them how they are special by sharing their degenerate ideas all the time. Honestly, the incels are less damaging.

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      I have friends from high school who fell into the alt-right rabbit hole. They are obsessed with transgenderism. If you believe their depressing timelines, trans people are absolutely everywhere, behaving like total degenerates and grooming kids left and right. They send me an unhealthy amount of videos to prove their claims.

      Meanwhile in the real world, I’ve encountered maybe 5 trans people that I recognized as such, and they were behaving normally, and not one tried to groom my kids! But if I tell them that they dismiss it on account of my woke mind virus / Trump derangement syndrome. They’re single, don’t have kids, and spend most of their time doomscrolling or watching the French version of Fox News, but they know better than me what’s going on in my kids’ school…

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      Between strangers, yes. For social groups, people tend to stop seeing each others looks as they get to know each other. This is where people’s advice to work on your personality is necessary. If you’re out just expecting random people to approach you because of your looks, you’re going to be waiting around for a long time unless you’re blessed with the lucky quality of being born gorgeous.

      If you go outside more you also notice that there aren’t a lot of gorgeous people in the real world. (No, Tinder, clubs and other places where people LARP don’t count as the real world.)

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        Agree with the first but not last paragraph; I work at a grocery and every day I’m floored by how many beautiful people come in on a daily basis. People I would consider just as beautiful if not more so than models.

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        Exactly.

        Honestly, if I was dating today, I probably wouldn’t select my SO based on looks, because let’s face it, we’re both getting older and a bit less attractive. But that literally doesn’t matter to me and I find them beautiful, because of the life we’ve spent together. I was initially attracted to them based on looks, but after some weeks, that really didn’t matter any more.

        Likewise with friends, I probably initially made my friends based on looks, but I honestly don’t care what they look like anymore, they’re just my friends.

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        Wait, really? Whenever I spend more time at work or at home I tend to forget how many really attractive people are really out there. Whenever I go out after a long period of time I end up being positively surprised. I would also not look at Tinder as an example, but because of the opposite: people on tinder look much uglier than in real life. But then again, usually outside you don’t look at people for more than one or two seconds, while on tinder there’s loads of photos for you to examine every single flaw

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          I suppose everyone is different, but most people tend to agree that photos are often misleading in one way or another. Typically though, photos tend to flatten features and as you said, accent and display flaws for people to stare at, whereas in real life, people are “alive” and dynamic and you see that “flaw” was actually just an angle or photo-artifact, and people’s expressions can provide a sense of dynamic life and motion that most people find more agreeable on an aesthetic level.

          But more than anything, face-to-face socializing is incredibly important because when you get to know someone, their appearance changes.

          Not a deluding-yourself kind of way like some people think, but literally your sense of what you find appealing will change. This is why again, social friend groups are the best places to meet people, you don’t have to feel as insecure about your appearance if you can socialize and make friends, people will associate you with positive feelings, and you them, and you will all become familiar and attractive to each other in one way or another.

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        Yeah, we’re way better over here on lemmy. (The lack of racism really does make us better tho)

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        I heard a story about a whole world that was perfect because they locked a kid up in a room and threw all the bad stuff in there with the kid. The poor kid suffered all of the world’s miseries so that others could enjoy life. That kid’s name? 4chan.

        4chan is 99% deplorable garbage. I won’t even go into /b/. Helllll no. But oddly enough, some of the internet’s best memes come out of there.

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          4chan is what the internet would look like if everything had the bare minimum of moderation. Actually a very interesting case study about the human psyche, and I’ve had many a interesting conversation on there, especially early internet days.

          Is it a shithole? Overall, yes. But the right board at the right time is truly early internet ethos.

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            If the entire internet was as unmoderated as 4chan, it would be a lot less extreme than 4chan is.

            But since there are only very few places like that, all the weirdos and nazis congregate there, cause that’s where they don’t get banned for using the n-word.

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              it would be a lot less extreme than 4chan is

              I don’t really think so, every online fora I’ve been a part of starts unmoderated, and it works, for years sometimes. But every single time without fail when a platform reaches a critical mass, moderation becomes necessary.

              I think putting a digital mask on shows the true nature of people, and moderation is the only way of keeping conversation* civil on the internet.

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                moderation becomes necessary

                Maybe, if you’re determined to preserve a certain culture on a specific site. But as long as movement between sites is pretty easy (was quite common in the days of forums), then the community could self-regulate reasonably well. Either the weirdos would leave, or the constructive members of the community would leave and the site would get shut down. Either way, the problem solves itself without moderation becoming necessary.

                IMO, the only reason we “need” moderation is because we’ve decided that the site itself needs to be preserved. That’s the mindset that needs to change. Sites should come and go and take the trash out with it.

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                  Moderation isn’t necessary if you’re willing to just throw the whole site away when it turns to shit.

                  Well, yeah. Storing your potatoes in the dark is also not “necessary” if you’re willing to just throw them away when they sprout. But wanting to preserve things we like is a given to most people.

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            The original idea of a meme came from Dawkins in the 70’s, and “Internet Meme” from Godwin in the early 90’s, talking about message boards, usenet, listservs, etc.

            4chan did not start the concept, no. Lolcats came from 4chan, iirc. But internet memes predate the existence of 4chan.

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              Well the word “meme” comes from Dawkins, but his usage was not to label the idea we talk about when we talk about memes.

              I know for a fact where I’m from memes were something you’d only ever see on 4chan and people on Facebook and any other “normal” social media (or people) had no idea of what the fuck even was a meme.

              I rememeber because I was like “this people are degenerates but it’s fascinating the whole layers upon layers of insane meaning that they managed to cram into single pictures, I wonder if people outside this bubble would ever understand those”.

              And to be fair memes nowdays are rarely as “obscure” as those old ones.

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                  Many forget that a meme is simply a concept or idea that grabs hold within a human community and is propagated and promulgated. Patriarchy is a meme. Capitalism is a meme. Doing ‘bunny ears’ behind someone’s head in a photo is a meme (h/t Parker and Stone). Doing cave paintings of animals is a meme. Fashion of an era is a meme. Our entire social structure runs on memes.

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        Through this sieve would come the ascended madmen. Those who escaped the cave and rejected the reality without, retreating to their chamber of hate and stagnation. The truly unhinged. No more naive, parroted bastardizations of the Socratic method. Only irreparables.

        This select choir of lunatics voluntarily ablating their sanity will be decadence enough, I think

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      most of them were social outcasts long before 4chan. That’s actually how they got there in the first place.

      Everyone will be having pleasant conversations outside, but these guys won’t.

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    I think their cope is that “people aren’t mentioning that but they think it” etc

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    interact with people

    Instructions unclear, helicoptered my dick around but there appeared to be no ceiling fan.

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      And now the park security is approaching with tasers. I guess playgrounds aren’t considered America!