Engineers said to be supporting missile launches and reports of North Koreans killed near Donetsk

Engineers said to be supporting missile launches and reports of North Koreans killed near Donetsk

North Korean military engineers have been deployed to help Russia target Ukraine with ballistic missiles, and North Koreans operating in occupied areas of Ukraine have already been killed, senior officials in Kyiv and Seoul said.

There are dozens of North Koreans behind Russian lines, in teams that “support launcher systems for KN-23 missiles”, a source in Ukraine told the Guardian.

Kim Jong-un, the North Korean leader, last year travelled to Russia for a summit with Vladimir Putin where the two men bolstered their deepening ties with a secret arms deal.

Pyongyang’s ammunition shipments were vital in allowing Russian forces to advance in a grinding war of attrition in eastern Ukraine this summer. But it appears increasingly clear that the agreement went beyond supplying materiel.

  • TAYRN@lemmy.worldEnglish
    111·
    2 months ago

    That’s an interesting point, and human rights are certainly into question, but I’d ask when the last time Germany, France, USA, etc, declared war and invaded a sovereign nation.

    • McDropout@lemmy.worldEnglish
      625·
      2 months ago

      you including the USA is funny like USA invaded multiple sovereign countries on baseless reasons… with impunity (because of their immunity to international law).

      They invaded Afghanistan to replace the Taliban… with the Taliban. They killed 1.5+ million Iraqis when they accused Iraq to have weapons of mass destruction that didn‘t exist. The american army tortured Iraqi citizens in Abu Ghraib prisons in documented ways against international law… with impunity. This is in 2000-2004. Only 2 decades ago.

      And let‘s not get started with how proxies are now doing their dirty work for them. The american proxy Israel invaded sovereign nation Lebanon a couple of days ago. How much money did the USA send Israel in weapons last year alone?

      Does Russia fund proxies? Sure. Does Russia claim to be the beacon of human rights? Not that I know of.

      But it‘s Russia that needs to be sanctioned, banned from sporting events, be called my enemy etc and the USA runs free from bombing Libya a couple of years ago.

      But Libyans, Iraqis, Afghanis and Lebanese are unfortunately not… human. They‘re muslims! Terrorists! Kill them all!

      And Ukrainians are white! Sklava Ukraini!! 🇺🇦

      • TAYRN@lemmy.worldEnglish
        71·
        2 months ago

        Oh, absolutely. The USA’s war(s) in Afghanistan and their role in the middle east are abhorant and unforgivable. Just like their roles in destabilizing South America, etc.

        And Russia should also be sanctioned, banned, etc. for attacking Ukraine. Just like they should’ve for Crimea.

        • McDropout@lemmy.worldEnglish
          318·
          2 months ago

          Abhorrent and unforgivable but…. not sanctionable.

          Russia‘s actions however are abhorrent and unforgivable and… sanctionable and we‘re willing to drive our own European citizens into endless inflation to protect a sovereign nation.

          • TAYRN@lemmy.worldEnglish
            72·
            2 months ago

            Sanctions are meant to prevent a current action. Reparations are meant to pay for past atrocities.

            If you were asking the USA, Germany, France, etc. to pay reparations, I’d see your point. But currently Russia is killing Ukrainians because they want more land. Sanctions are, sadly, one of the best ways to prevent more innocent deaths.

            • McDropout@lemmy.worldEnglish
              514·
              2 months ago

              I am not against sanctioning Russia; Russia is going against international law.

              But the same countries that didn‘t hesitate to sanction Russia when their ally Israel breaks international law… crickets. Makes me question their morals.

              Also, thank you for having this respectful conversation with me because I am getting attacked for having a different opinion on Lemmy.

              I didn‘t disrespect any commentator in the comments section.

              I am critical of Russia, China, USA, EU etc etc.

              • TAYRN@lemmy.worldEnglish
                2·
                2 months ago

                Yeah, when it comes to Israel / Iran, I don’t have much to say. I’m willing to say that the USA fucked it up so much that morals are out the window.

                I don’t know if religious differences would have led us here eventually, regardless, but I honestly don’t think so.