“Why care about other countries instead of focusing on our own” is often a manipulative way to say “let’s allow xenophobia and sacrifice other nationalities to fuel our own”.
And I’m sorry, but the guy in the last picture probably has it much easier than people going through the war in Ukraine.
The USA shouldn’t be funding wars abroad when it’s own people are starving and homeless. This is not xenophobia. That is common sense. The USA shouldn’t be funding wars period, actually.
Helping Ukraine isn’t funding a war though. It’s helping an entire country from oppression.
Ukraine has a right wing government that dissolved all the other parties and which has Nazis platoons. That is fascism. The USA is funding fascism in Ukraine while Russia is trying to denazify it.
There was also a U.S. funded genocide happening in Dombass and Crimea that the Russians stopped. The USA doesn’t help against oppression. The USA exports oppression.
It has a democratically elected government and it banned a small minority of parties that were collaborating with an invading military, as its pre-existing constitution allowed for.
Russia isn’t de-Nazifying shit. Russia is grabbing up valuable land and creating a vassal state. The “de-Nazifying” line is blatant marketing to sell its imperialism.
It is partially the land sure, but don’t forget where the main natural gas reserves are in Ukraine. It’s not a coincidence that Russia has been specifically targeting Donbass for years now.
The entire function of Crimea is to help form a land bridge to grab those resources.
Edit: It’s obvious by the removed comments that Russian Nazis are in control of this sub. I have as much proof of that as that Kremlin shill does that we are replying to.
There was literally a genocide of ethnic Russians happening in Donbas and they asked Russians for aid which the right wing government of Ukraine just let it happen
Russia has had multiple opportunities to present actual evidence to support those claims and they haven’t done so.
On that note, I would be glad to hear any evidence you have on that subject. (It will be quick to debunk, most likely.)
You are going through Kremlin talking points verbatim. It’s the same list, in the same order, every single time. I suppose you are going to roll into the biowarfare plants in Ukraine that are sponsored by NATO and the US next?
You are reading the wrong script, my dude.
It is a puppet government placed after the CIA backed coup of the democratically elected president. Banning all 11 opposition parties is literally what fascists do.
The Ukrainian units literally have swasticas and say Nazi rethoric and volunteers from other countries constantly complain of the virulent racism they experience.
Nazis are an existential threat to the Russian state as they have demonstrated by allying with NATO and causing a coup to the former elected president. That is why Russia has to denazi Ukraine.
Even if we accept that Euromaidan was a CIA-backed coup, which I do not, the Zelenskyy government was not elected immediately after that. A different government was, and Zelenskyy beat them at the next election
Banning all 11 opposition parties is literally what fascists do.
Banning parties for literal wartime treason is not fascism. You’re doing the equivalent of “fascists drink water, therefore drinking water is fascist”. They also were not even slightly close to “all opposition parties”.
Yes, there are fascists in Ukraine. I bet they’d be a lot fucking easier to deal with if the Russian military wasn’t invading. If those fascists want to get themselves killed fighting imperialists then that’s fine by me. Considering one of Russia’s best forces has been Wagner - where did that name come from I fucking wonder - then sometimes they’re literally just killing each other. I am not about to throw the other forty million Ukrainians under the bus because of them, just as I would not advocate for America and China to beat the shit out of Russia over the existence of Wagner.
Nazis are an existential threat to the Russian state as they have demonstrated by allying with NATO and causing a coup to the former elected president. That is why Russia has to denazi Ukraine.
Literally the American government talking about terrorism. You are doing the same thing. A few thousand Ukrainian shitheads are not able to destroy Russia.
And also, the US and Europe are having to fund the infrastructure repairs in Ukraine as well. You seem to not notice that Russia is specifically targeting civilian infrastructure before winter.
Russia has clearly stated, multiple times, that Ukraine is basically a gateway into Poland. From that perspective, it makes perfect sense to suppress Putin’s efforts in Ukraine.
Russia shouldn’t be invading countries period, actually.
Fucking hell dude do you really remove everyone else’s comments just because you disagree. What a fucking joke of a mod you are. You fascist!
Lol fuck that. Nobody in a bad spot wants to hear that some underage minority prostitutes in some bigoted religious third world country have it worse. There is always someone who has it worse, in fact this is one of the most common deflections when the marginalized ask for (literal) change.
The bottomless wallet always opens up for war.
because the money just goes from one pocket to the other
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The USA financed a coup in Ukraine which placed a far right wing puppet leader that the USA can control to use for NATO expansion and to threat Russia’s borders
Souce?
Smooth brain here
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The Democrats literally cut social security and irs funding to send more money to wars, the fuck you talking about?
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“Everything that doesn’t agree with me is a troll”. I could literally say the same of the articles that you sent since all that western media and news sources do is lie and backtrack, and many times not even backtrack.
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Missing frame is the government squeezing the cash out of the middle working class before tossing change to that poor man.
And comically large wheelbarrows of cash being delivered to billionaires
Slight correction: they have billions to hand to private companies who then give a pittance to the poor and needy while naturally cutting a profit and exploiting every loophole and every opening to increase their profits and revenues, because something something corporate efficiency?
Estimated Russian army spending is between $85-$105 billion USD. (This has likely skyrocketed since that that estimate was taken as Russia has transitioned to a wartime economy.)
Chinese? ~$212-$230 billion USD.
Spending on military is better put in context of GDP, and actual spending is going to be very different than published or even estimated numbers. (It’s likely much more, is what I am implying.)
I actually agree that this money is better spent on social welfare. It’s a stupid situation across the board and many countries are guilty of this disparity.
For better or for worse, much of that money goes back into the overall economy of the country supplying the aid. Not all, but most. (This can get complicated due to the lifespan of specific types of munitions.)
What I am saying is that there is a ton of blame to pass around and poking at one country or another is an agenda, not a solution.
2022 USA military spending: $812 billion
