Which is the better option + spinning a vm is possible and ltsc the only issue is I have to repirte a windows license for ltsc(and according to Microsoft ltsc was mostly designed for embedded systems) thanks for any help and I decided to post it on the linux community bcs I couldn’t find a suitable place to post it and this is related to linux but man I love linux tho and if I go with the jumpship method I have to sadly leave some games behind like roblox (it’s fine due to some moderation issues bad games etc etc but ngl its a fun game ik sober exists but i kinda dont wanna use a android emulator to play roblox i could use it since its our only option for linux and also i need to wait some time for my affinity subscription to end orrrr i try running it on bottles/wine again)
Depends on your needs. If you use any proprietary production tools like Photoshop, you may still need to keep Windows on the side. As for myself, unless the user really gets used to Linux, gains some experience, I do not advise to switch to Linux fully. I’ve seen so many people who did this and returned back to Windows.
i am getting rid of softawre that do not work on linux soon, and most of the apps and games i use work on linux.
If you have a laptop and a desktop put it on the laptop fully rather than dual boot
Until proton came out I kept dual booting but I always ended up booting into windows because I didn’t know how to do x on Linux
When I just wiped windows completely and put it on my laptop I distro hopped for a bit but never went back
Ended up switching my PC over too after about 6 months and I no longer own any windows machines, nor feel the need to besides the odd firmware upgrade of a peripheral or something
I’d say dual boot. Jumping ship from windows to linux without it is very hard, especially if you enjoy playing a windows-only game or rely on windows-only software. A virtual machine can work for some basic software, but you need to do GPU passt trough to the VM to be able to game at all, which is a… let’s just say not insignificant amount of messing around and configuring stuff.
I can quit all the windows software it’s not hard for me
I’d still recommend dual booting, just in case…
hm around 24 people recommend to fully delete windows, 8 recommend dualbooting, yeah i counted it.
That’s not a good sample though. This place will shill Linux all day long and are biased in that direction.
I am contemplating the same, but the amount of time I’ll have to put into figure out if I can use my 4060TI with it, or what games I’ll be able to play etc and configure it how I want it is not a small amount of time or research.
ohhh
Dual boot and give it a shot.
Yeah I did I was using linux more and more
Something I did that helped make the jump was buying a separate drive to put linux on and removing my windows drive. It makes the act of switching back to windows take more effort, but didn’t remove the possibility altogether.
I also got an enclosure for my M.2 and can use the windows drive as a super fast thumb drive and use that to transfer the files from the windows drive that I care to keep on linux. (none of it is critical, not worth doing proper back ups)
This is a great middle ground suggestion
All advice here seems to focus on linux, but I’d say rip that bandaid off first. Go cold turkey on roblox. That shit is the worst cancer to come out of something that was fun initially.
Not in four months to a year. Yesterday. Learn to control your impulses first and the rest will fall into place, whichever way you go.
It’s also bcs of affinity btw idk why i didn’t mention it
Why wait? Dual boot, get cozy, still have the ability to go back to Windows if needed, find alternative apps, and soon enough, you won’t need the Windows partition :) Worked for my partner, my brother, and myself
Start using it now in a VM. Linux has gotten very user friendly over the years but it’s still a completely different system with different design philosophies. Ease into it now and test the water with different distros
When I left for Linux I had to give up League of Legends. I sucked it up, & after a month, I was fine without it & it was better since I knew it wouldn’t be worth the effort even trying to install it on Linux.
Another point for Linux
I am happy Arcane is good tho. Knowing the characters makes it a more fun & engaging. They built some good art & lore.
Arcane is a fantastic series, eagerly awaiting the next season. Even my sister is into it (and as far as I know she has no clue what League of Legends is)
i am trying to give up roblox preparing for 4 months to a year why a long time you might ask bcs am currently waiting for the 6 month trial to end.
LoL is addicting & sucks your soul out; Roblox does this while making child labor on their platform on how the games are built & monetized inside their platform. It is pretty gross.
And the 6 months is for affinity but yeah ruben sim explains what’s wrong with roblox pretty well
You’ll never be wrong by making it dual boot - if you won’t need Windows, hooray, but if you will - it’s still there, always has been.
Dualboot definitely, don’t belive anything other than that, taking slow the only good way
plan to wipe windows in the future anyways bcs win11 sucks
should I completely jumpship to linux when windows 10 ends support
Nah, there’s no need to wait.
I’d recommend dual booting right now so you can transition over a longer period. Also make sure your chosen distro supports dual-boot. Technically any distro can dual-boot but if it doesn’t support dual-boot you’ll have to put in some extra effort to make sure both can boot safely and easily.
need it for some apps but its possible i can switch on march 2025 a whole few months before windows 10 ends support
I jump shipped to arch when I first started out. But I had experience with Linux vms for school already
Jump the ship, I did 6 years ago, before even proton was a thing when games worked witha lot of thinkering.
Nowdays you habe so many great games working you won’t mind a couple of games not working because of all the other playable games.
Did you write “thinkering” on purpose? Because it’s fantastic.
Oh yeah true I can run most of my games I play daily fine( including proton and native but gmod has some hiccups on native linux tho) on my dualbooted partition or in this case separate hardrive (excluding roblox like mentioned in the post)
same here, same time period. everything works. one have to be aware there’s no adobe or autodesk and linux is not windows same as osx is not, and it will not look or behave as windows. beside specific issues for some users, for me it works flawlessly.
one thing cannot grasp is willingness of so many to dual boot.
No autodesk, but if you have the budget you can use Siemens NX (version 12 or before) on Linux. They have install media for SUSE or RHEL. I found it more performant on Linux than the W10 install
I would almost recommend GPU passthrough if you have a dual GPU system and can figure it out. It definitely takes a bit of tinkering, but I like the results: I now have both a Windows 10 (maybe will become 11, maybe 11 LTSC) and a Hackintosh VM. It’s not as good if you only have one graphics card, through. If you’re up for it, I used this tutorial. If it’s an AMD card, though, make sure to check my issue for any steps relating to that.
As for dual boot, get a second drive if you can. I find it helps me avoid a lot of the misery, although I very rarely actually boot up Windows anymore - just a VM if I really have to (which I do for MATLAB because my university is ridiculous and I figure if I’m going to use an evil programming language, I might as well use it in an isolated, evil environment).
I’m a fan of dual booting AND using a passthrough VM. It’s easiest to set up if your machine has two NVMe slots and you put each OS on its own drive. This way you can pass the Windows NVMe through to the VM directly.
The advantage of this configuration is that you get the convenience of not needing to reboot to run some Windows specific software, but if you need to run software that doesn’t play nice with virtualization (maybe a program has too large a performance hit with virtualization, or software you want to run doesn’t support virtualized systems, like some anticheat-enabled games), you can always reboot to your same Windows installation directly.
I can see that. I nuked my Windows partition years ago, though. Honestly, if I find a software is jerk enough to block virtualization, I don’t find it worth using.
Fair enough! I think it’s more common for games to do that, but sometimes I had trouble with software on Windows that used virtualization elements themself. I probably just didn’t properly configure HyperV settings, but I know nested virtualization can be tricky.
For me it’s also because I’m on a laptop, and my Windows VM relies on me passing through an external GPU over TB3 but my laptops’ dedicated GPU has no connection to a display, so it would be tricky to try and do GPU passthrough on the VM if I were on the go. I like being able to boot Windows on the go to edit photos in Lightroom, for example, but otherwise I’d prefer to run the Linux host and use the Windows VM only as needed.
Yeh, I think it has to do with some CPU topology crap. I have it working pretty well, luckily - I once had an old Virtualbox VM with MacOS that I needed, and I was able to boot it in my Windows VM.
With Lightroom, you’re right on that. Honestly, the state of FOSS image editors is a bit ridiculous, especially considering how good FOSS vector editors like Inkscape are these days compared to their commercial, proprietary counterparts.
Yeah there’s a good chance you’re right. Maybe something to do with memory management as well.
Long term I’ll probably end up switching back to Darktable. I used it before and honestly it is quite good, but I currently have a free license for CC from my university and the AI denoise features in LR are pretty nice compared to the classical profiled denoise from Darktable. It does also help that the drivers for my SD card reader are less finicky on Windows so it’s easier for me to quickly copy over images from my camera on there instead of Linux. Hopefully that also gets better over time!
Interesting, I’ve never heard of softwares that don’t support virtualized systems, I mean how would they… know?
I don’t know exactly, but it’s apparently a thing. Some game anti-cheat software such as Easy Anti-Cheat will give you an error message saying something along the lines of “Virtual machines are not supported.” Some are easy to bypass by just tweaking your VM config, others not so much.
In some cases they look for generic virtual hw devices, in other cases things like available cpu flags or BIOS version.
There are ways to hide it though:
https://github.com/zhaodice/qemu-anti-detection
https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/how-do-i-hide-the-fact-to-windows-that-it-runs-in-a-vm.115627/
if i ever considered gpu passthrough should i get a gt 710 alongside gtx 1650
Something like that. In my setup, I passthrough my RX 580 (my nicer card) and have my RX 550 (a dirt cheap one I got for ~$85 on sale) stay connected to the host.
