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      Not voting for the candidate when you could’ve doesn’t improve the opponents odds?

      No, it doesn’t. Not voting for a candidate neither increases nor decreases their chances. Voting for a candidate is what increases their chances, voting for their opponent is what decreases them.

      Actually mathematically false. You’re saying 1+1=4 because if it doesn’t your feefees will be hurt.

      Nope, it’s actually mathematically false, you’re the one twisting numbers around. Remove me from existence and Trump and Kamala’s chances will be the same, so I’m not increasing or decreasing either’s chances.

      Voting is in no way shape or form an endorsement of anything

      Definitionally, endorsing a candidate is when you say, “This candidate is the best choice and I intend to vote for them.” It doesn’t mean, “I agree with everything this candidate says or does.” If you vote for a candidate, tell people you vote for them, and encourage others to vote for them, that is definitionally an endorsement.

      You’re obviously a teenager whose brain has not fully developed. If you’re an adult, god help us.

      I’m in my 30’s. You’re just wrong about everything you said.

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          if you choose not to, you will decrease their chances

          False. If you chose not to, the chances remain the same.

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              No, the same which is the same for the candidate you prefer. The chances only change if you vote for them or for their opponent. It is objectively, mathematically false to say that the chances change when you do nothing, it’s not even a coherent statement, doing nothing by definition changes nothing.

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                and the same is a lower chance for the candidate you prefer than if you had voted for them.

                How are you confused by this???

                if you vote for kamala

                +1 chance for kamala

                if you do not vote

                +0 chance for kamala

                If trump is an option, and you didn’t increase the chance for kamala, you have increased the chance for trump

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                  Than if you had voted for them. You didn’t say that before. When you don’t specify that, the statement is false.

                  Relative to a baseline of starting nuclear war, I stopped a nuclear war today. That doesn’t mean that I actually stopped a nuclear war in an absolute sense, or relative to doing nothing. If I went around telling people I stopped a nuclear war, I’d be lying. In the same way, it’s false to say that not voting is “helping” Trump, unless you specify that you mean relative to doing something that hurts Trump.

                  If trump is an option, and you didn’t increase the chance for kamala, you have increased the chance for trump

                  For example, this is false.

                  if you do not vote

                  +0 chance for kamala

                  There you go, you just said it yourself. Neither an increase nor a decrease.

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                    Neither an increase nor a decrease.

                    how do you not understand that neither an increase or a decrease, when there are two choices, is equivalent to a neutral vote, and therefore you are increasing the odds of the side that you don’t want to win, than if you had voted for the side you do want to win.

                    How is this so complex for you? I am genuinely baffled.

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        Seriously man… how many people are you going to let eat your lunch before you just tap out?

        You’re all over this post getting wrecked left and right. Just stop man. It’s getting sad.