• Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
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    1 day ago

    You realize that unless you have a second citizenship it’s not easy to just up and leave for another country?

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      Even that isn’t enough unless you have a lot of money laying around and some kind of support network in whatever country you plan to escape to.

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      Most people don’t. I really didn’t get the whole scope/big picture until my wife (who immigrated as a child and now works with immigrant families) explained the whole process and gave examples of things she’s seen at work and with people in the community. Last night we got dinner with my mom and she asked “OK where are we moving to?” to only get a lengthy conversation of how it’s works and how hard it is. It’s not as easy as buying a plane ticket, selling all your stuff or shipping things to where you are going and then picking up life as normal. I hope most people here realize that, but I felt like it needed to be said.

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        24 hours ago

        Immigration is never easy… Right? I’d like to hear more stories from those who ensured the process.

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          My wife’s story isn’t too exciting. Her tio and tia were able to get visas in the early 80s and were both Doctors. After they received citizenship and established themselves in the United States, they started helping the rest of the family come over. My wife’s immediate family applied for visas in 95 and was approved in 99. They had a big support system of family already here and gained citizenship a few years later. Her story is one of the better/easier ones and she is very aware of that.

          Without getting into too much personal stuff, she has heard multiple stories of one or two children (as young as 7) getting separated from the rest of their family for a month/months at detention centers. Some of them deal with the trauma better than others . It seems like the younger kids normalized it in their head, but it’s always weird for her when they ask about her immigration story, and how much easier it was for her.

    • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      22 hours ago

      What I kinda hate is the liberals who act like they want to help but are actively planning to leave the country.

      If they are brown or queer, sure. It’s needed, seek asylum and live elsewhere. If they’re white cis liberals who happened to have a back up plan and just abandon the people who thought they would save them?

      “I’m here to help. Oh we lost despite me browbeating you and tokenizing your life. I’m off to England and Canada, bye! Maybe I’ll give some bucks to a random gofundme.”