• SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world
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      11 hours ago

      Nothing is wrong with them, but I get not wanting to gamble with thos odds.

      Especially when, according to the national park service, “when bear encounters do happen, they are most often nonviolent”. So if you had to gamble…

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        Are you saying that theres >42% chance a bear will be on your side in the wilderness then?

        That makes no sense. By all arguments taking “a man” is prolly the far better choice anyways, people are just stupid.

        There’s a 100% chance that “the bear” is a fucking bear

        Theres at least a decent chance “a random man” is an asset to survival and your odds of success go up instead of down…

        There’s no scenario where choosing “the bear” improves your odds of success >_>;

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          Unless the bear is starving, rabid or you are between it and its cubs, there is a 99% chance that the bear will just leave you alone, and probably run away.

          I’m guessing that’s not as high a percentage when it comes to men considering statistics involving rape and murder.

          So yeah, I’d say that there are a lot of scenarios where choosing the bear improves your odds of success.

          It’s like people think there are hundreds of thousands of bear maulings ever year or something…

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          You’re changing the hypothetical into something it’s not. “Odds of success” are a weird thing to think about when it’s just a walk in the woods.

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        10 hours ago

        Yeah the overwhelming majority of woman interactions with men is non violent.

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          8 hours ago

          “the overwhelming majority of these m&ms are not poisonous.”

          mmm sounds delicious

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            Idk, women also do dumb violent shit, guess everyone should avoid everybody? Since some humans, regardless of their background, are toxic?

            Life is risk. Not taking any risk is choosing not to live. It’s relatively easy to figure out who’s a shithead, of course you should be wary of people, but everyone has to filter out other shitty people constantly, it’s not suddenly some new thing because Trumpers exist.

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            They one poisonous m&m in the factory is better than this chainsaw will to your face off, but at least you were safe from potentially being poisoned

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          Very true, but the overwhelming majority of women interact with men overwhelmingly frequently compared to bears.

          Almost as if the whole thing is a light hearted way of drawing attention to a very real fear women live with every day, that stats posted above bear (get it?) witness to.

          Plus, if we are being pedantic, it’s not “interactions with men”. It’s “would you, as a woman, feel safer encountering a man or a bear when you are alone in the woods”.

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              If we are talking about odds, I’d rather run into a bear than any human being in the woods regardless of skin color because humans kill humans in an exponentially greater number than bears kill humans.

              So sure. I’d rather run into a bear than a black person in the woods. Or a white person. Or a brown person. Or even a blue person. And you do have a small chance running into one of the blue ones in one area that’s bear country.

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                This is wrong reasoning though. The only reason why bears kill less humans is because like you say, less bears interact with humans. But if you go with the premise of putting a bear and a human next to each other, then a bear is always more dangerous.

                It’s like saying ingesting cyanide kills less people than car accidents. That doesn’t mean ingesting cyanide is less dangerous than driving a car.

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                  I thought we were talking about odds?

                  Why did you bring up odds if this was about the “right” reasoning?

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              What’s a “black prison”? Is that like an off-the-books CIA site where they keep people who won’t be found? I’d definitely take the bear, the CIA would probably torture me to get me to tell them how I found their black prison.

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            Any woman who says “the bear” honestly, I have to assume" has never once actually encountered a bear in the woods.

            Prolly has had extremely few encounters with anything in the woods.

            People hang out on trails all the time, and are alone with another stranger on the trails extremely often, and the extremely vast majority of those interactions are overwhelming positive in all configurations. The vast majority of humans are helpful at worst, for all genders.

            People like to help other people out.

            Yes, I would vastly prefer to encounter a gun toting right wing MAGA nut on the trail than a fucking bear, thats not even a hard question to answer, its a fucking bear.

            Im left wing by a long shot but I still know that even the average right wing MAGA nut is actually prolly still gonna be, on average, helpful and/or friendly, or maybe just cold and indifferent towards me, out in the wilderness.

            Hell I’d actually honestly say this scenario is one of the few times I’d choose a MAGA right wing nut over a fellow left leaning fellow.

            I love my fellow liberals but I also have to acknowledge the vast majority of us are city slickers, many many of which prolly couldnt even start a fire if their life depended on it (cuz its just not a thing that matters in the city)

            Meanwhile the odds the random selected MAGA right wing gun nut prolly shows up with hunting equipment and knows how to do shit like make a lean to and skin a rabbit.

            If I got to pick between the two, I’d choose the gun nut cuz Id rather risk surviving with a gun nut than dying with a fellow city slicker, love yeah all but like, we aint fuckin surviving in the woods long, thats just a fact lol.

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              Any woman who says “the bear” honestly, I have to assume" has never once actually encountered a bear in the woods.

              i have to assume you never were a woman… is that correct assumption, smartass?

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          Overwhelming majority of women interactions with men is not alone in the forest - and that was the setting of this exercise.
          Of course I’d rather see a man in crowded office space than a bear, stranded alone in a forest however, math changes.

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            Yeah because women don’t interact with several bears on a daily basis you jack ass

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              You’re sure doing your part to make sure women want to interact with you. I bet you’ve convinced most of them that throwing a fit and calling people names when you don’t get your way makes you the best guy.

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          Ok 42% of men voted for your rights. Most violent crime, SA, and murder is done by men. Potentially in the near future you can’t escape a marriage without a “good” reason and you can’t abort a forced pregnancy.
          Bears. Potentially murder and maul you. Majority of bear to human interactions are non violent and happens numerically wise less than Bears. You interact with men more than Bears. By a million times. The interactions with a male could be worse. Than just killed or hurt severally. Which is the only thing you get from a bear.

          Yes not all men but most men don’t support your rights and crimes are mostly men. Bear impacts are better outcomes than a bad man impacts

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            I’ve HEARD a lot of women talk about how they’d rather be with a bear. I haven’t actually SEEN any leaving society to go live in the woods with a bear. Nor have I seen many of the men supporting them cut off their testicles and dress as bears.

            Now, that leaves me in a pickle. Should I conclude a lot of women are hypocrites and a lot of men are just white knighting, since none of them are actually putting their money where their mouth is? Should I begin questioning if all women talk out of their ass and only take their input to be true if they provide signed statements, ideally notarized?

            Nah. Probably not. I’m gonna choose to believe #notAllWomen lie. Just, like, the ones talking about bears.